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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 12:33 pm

I have a bowl with a mark on the bottom RH&S. I am unable to post the images currently as I have just joined the forum and the upload failed.

Anyone know who RH&S applies to as my current searches don't seem to have bought up anything relating to the style of the bowl.

Its entitled 'Wild Flowers' written under the RH&S mark and has 2 potters marks which are difficult to see. It also has 1787 written by hand with ink and a nib under the glaze.

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Post by NaomiM on October 21st 2016, 12:37 pm

Sometimes the photos fail to upload if your broadband is a bit slow or the images are too big or the wrong format, or your uploading a URL link rather than direct from your computer's photo album. Maybe try uploading one and see if it works.

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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 12:40 pm

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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 12:41 pm

NaomiM wrote:Sometimes the photos fail to upload if your broadband is a bit slow or the images are too big or the wrong format, or your uploading a URL link rather than direct from your computer's photo album. Maybe try uploading one and see if it works.

Thanks for the help NaomiM :)
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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 12:42 pm

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Post by NaomiM on October 21st 2016, 12:47 pm

Found this quote from Godden marks book -

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The mark is from earthenware maker Ralph Hammersley & Sons. 1860 - 1905.

The garter mark was used by them from 1868 but 1884 to 1905 they used the initials R H & S. The word England was added from 1891. LTD was also added as well.

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Post by NaomiM on October 21st 2016, 12:49 pm

Wild Flowers is the pattern name, and the lack of England in the mark points to it being made from 1884 to 1891

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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 12:54 pm

Thats interesting, I did not think it was as old as that. I will have to do some deeper research on the background. Thanks for taking the time to reference the mark.
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Post by NaomiM on October 21st 2016, 1:11 pm

To add, 1787 would be this particular colour variation of the Wild Flowers pattern

China manufacturers had to add the country of origin to the mark to comply with the import duties Acts in 1891 and early 20thC, but some didn't bother until after WW1

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Post by studio-pots on October 21st 2016, 4:22 pm

It fits in very much with the Aesthetic Movement style that was the trend of the time.

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Post by Essenjay on October 21st 2016, 6:54 pm

The three impressed numbers will almost certainly tell you when the plate was made - looks like a 3 on top for March and then the two numbers underneath will be the last two numbers of the year. This date, however, doesn't automatically equate to when it was decorated and sold; it may have been more-or-less immediately or even months later, depending on demand for their products. Many factories kept stocks of unfinished pieces ready for whichever pattern was ordered by the customer, and to cover fluctuations in demand.
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Post by Essenjay on October 21st 2016, 6:59 pm

Oh, and the impressed word looks like 'Ivory' which would refer to a slightly off-white glaze that a number of manufacturers used; it's not uncommon on pottery from the 1860s through to the 1940s.
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Post by jimboo1 on October 21st 2016, 8:15 pm

Thanks for everyone chipping in with their knowledge, its an impressive forum. I need to start reading up on the subject and become more informed with what I am looking at. I will check out other parts of the forum on books and general references. I am sure I have been blind to some bargains in the past.

This was found just left outside on top of a stack of modern dinner plates.
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