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Post by Mordeep Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:52 am

Looks like some nice examples coming up. Worth 5 min even if just to say " I have one of those"

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/adampartridge/catalogue-id-adam-p10107
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Post by NaomiM Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:08 pm

Catalogue now online

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Post by 22 Crawford St. Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:27 am

Whhat! How much? I nearly went ...glad I only left a bid now. I'm in shock... I'f I'm right 279 went for about a grand(inc)? Is that right?

http://www.adampartridge.co.uk/lots/?start=250&limit=50

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Post by philpot Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:18 am

£800  hammer price + 18% Buyer's commission. They were very nice Briglin vases tho...But not THAT nice! Laughter
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Post by NaomiM Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:20 pm

Did anyone have any luck at Friday’s auction? I’m a bit gobsmacked that my two low-ball absentee bids have come up trumps, Shock especially since I’m supposed to be saving up for CAL next weekend. I’ll have to arrange delivery. Doh!

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Post by philpot Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:54 pm

I thought it was probably one of the weakest studio auctions that Adam Partridge have had. Both in the quality of what was on offer  (fewer big hitters) and the strength of the bidding. There were a higher proportion of unsolds -Most of the Charles Bound for instance- and a fair amount of the curated stuff did badly. As a general criticism, there is too  much low value items for a specialist sale, and Adam Partridge himself is an annoying auctioneer. He showboats, and waits for bottom end bids for  stuff that has not had much demand or value. Being at the auction is a tedious process.
                  I have bought from Adam Partridge in the past, but did not think of bidding on this one. Mind you, our collecting pattern had changed, and we are not really buying any much Leach school now. I think that this auction probably reflects the general state of the country and market now. People are being cautious in both selling and buying, because they are uncertain of the future....Bloody Brexit!
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Post by dantheman Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:30 pm

NaomiM wrote:Did anyone have any luck at Friday’s auction? I’m a bit gobsmacked that my two low-ball absentee bids have come up trumps,  Shock  especially since I’m supposed to be saving up for CAL next weekend. I’ll have to arrange delivery. Doh!

Oh so it's not just me who does that? Laughter

some auction houses are accommodating when it comes to delivery but when you deal with specialist couriers things can get expensive and there's often a reason you got it cheap (damage)

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Post by philpot Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:48 pm

They do have a very good sparkly new website now, which promises to be a very good price resource site. Especially if they include the auctions from previous years.
https://live.adampartridge.co.uk/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/132

Personally I only bid if I can collect. Have had disastrous experiences with couriers, never again! And boy were they expensive.
To give Adam Partridge their due, their condition desciptions are truly excellent and honest, and are one of the very,very few auction houses you can trust in this respect, At least in their Studio pottery sales.
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Post by NaomiM Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:29 pm

They seem to be including commissioned pieces by a few contemporary potters these days and I had gone on just to see the Ben Fosker pieces, but I can buy direct from him so there wasn’t much point in buying via an auction. Last auction they had Steve Booton moon jars but they sold badly; I don’t think many collectors know about him yet except via the Facebook collectors groups, and he’s another one I buy from directly

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Post by philpot Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:16 am

Jason Wood (Adam Partridge's studio pottery expert) of course is trying to do something of the sort that Cyril Farnkel did with Bonhams so suceesfully. Unfortunately he is not a personal friend of Lucie Rie, and with a hugely talented group of studio potters that merged in the 70's and 80's that he could 'curate' from. Moreover Adam Partridge and Macclesfield is not London and an International auction house like Bonhams.
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Post by NaomiM Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:20 am

Next auction of studio pottery on the 30th April.
Some controversy over a bowl purporting to be by Bernard Leach which is probably misattributed. Came from his collection but probably Japanese.

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Post by studio-pots Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:51 pm

The old adage "buyer beware", which I grew up with when visiting auctions comes to mind. Something that is more relevant today than it was 30 years or so ago when I first began going to auctions.

It can sometimes work in your favour, as it did with a friend of mine. He attended a central London specialist studio pottery auction in the 1990s and bought a small bowl that was described as "Japanese with 2 indistinct seal marks". With commission he paid between £26 and £28. I, like many others, ignored the bowl because I assumed that the specialist would have known what he was looking at. My friend didn't and sold the bowl at another central London specialist auction for a very hefty profit, as the marks were Hamada's personal seal and the St. Ives Leach Pottery seal.

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Post by NaomiM Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:16 pm

Indeed. Buyer beware. I’ve seen plenty of mistakes by auction houses; very few have experts in studio pottery to identify the Marks.
This particular bowl was sold by Sotheby’s with a second one by Leach. It was then sold by Oxford Gallery as being by Leach, so at some point the other bowl was conveniently forgotten about.

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Post by studio-pots Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:36 pm

I'll have a look, as I might recognise it from the past.

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Post by NaomiM Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:30 pm

The original sale at Christies, 2013. 2 bowls with the pagoda pattern. One with both BL and St Ives stamp , and this other one which is listed as having a BL stamp, so Christies made the original mistake.
Then resold at Oxford Ceramics Gallery as part of their Bernard Leach 100 years exhibition.
And now Lot.17 at Partridges.
They originated from Bernard Leach's personal collection, kept at his Barnaloft apartment.

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Post by studio-pots Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:09 am

Yes, I looked at the records of the Christie's sale and I assume that the person that bought them kept the one that was right and then passed on this Chinese bowl to someone that would believe what Christie's had stated.

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Post by studio-pots Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:11 am

I thought that the Partridge sale had a wide range of pots and looked interesting on the whole.

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Post by philpot Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:08 am

There are a number of sales coming up in the next week or two with substantial Studio Pottery numbers. Lyon and Turnbull (the leading Scottish auctioneers who now also do auction from London) Chorleys near Cheltenham, Sworders near Bishop Stortford. Generally they are part of Modern Design sales. This covers a wide area and makes for an interesting catalogue browse. Maak February May auction has just come online today.
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Post by studio-pots Sun May 02, 2021 4:17 am

I see that someone paid nearly £900 for the Chinese bowl that was catalogued as being by Bernie the Leach at Partridge's sale yesterday.

The real surprise for me was the £2673 in total paid for a Geoffrey Fuller slipware Wassail pot and cover. It's height was 40cm. and it looked an impressive piece. However, it was catalogued as "chips to inside rim of cover" and had an estimate of £200 to £300.

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Post by NaomiM Sun May 02, 2021 4:27 am

studio-pots wrote:I see that someone paid nearly £900 for the Chinese bowl that was catalogued as being by Bernie the Leach at Partridge's sale yesterday.


£720 plus commission (Lot 17).  Shock  Despite being tagged by Wendy, Jason Wood never responded to the query over this attribution of the "Bernard Leach" teabowl so a classic case of buyer beware. They’d have a case to claim their money back, imo, but Christies were at fault with the original attribution so a real can of worms.

I had a watchlist but didnt bother bidding in the end. Everything went for a lot more than I'd have bid; I've noticed that on several auctions now; no real bargains unless it's unidentified.

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Post by studio-pots Sun May 02, 2021 8:23 am

Jason Wood never responded to my comment about the garish supposedly Wallwork thing in their last auction. If the buyer did take action it would be Adam Partridge that would be responsible.

I stopped buying at auctions over 5 years ago, as most things that I would be interested in sell for a figure that I would be too embarrassed to ask for them.

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Post by philpot Tue May 04, 2021 3:10 am

The nitty gritty is all in auctioneers Terms and Conditions. Usually auctioneers state that they are just acting as Agents of the Sellers. Which lets them off the hook to a large extent.
A Christies provenance would probably make it very difficult to advance any claim as to authenticity. It did look a very weird pot to be a Barnard Leach.
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Post by studio-pots Wed May 05, 2021 6:40 am

I think if you spend just a second to look you will see that all of the major auction houses around the world have made mistakes or just not bothered or had the expertise to care about whether something is what they say it is.

As an example of this, my investigation that took a second.. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2010/oct/17/christies-forger-art-scam

A Christies provenance is worth nothing. That's the bottom line and Partridge's using that is a reason for saying this is a bowl by Bernard Leach is absolute b*ll*cks. Not they they did that. They just ignored the question.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. Wed May 05, 2021 7:52 am

When your up for 20% buyers and 20% sellers premium they seem to sell + plead innocent if they get caught. What's going to happen to them if they are wrong?
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Post by philpot Thu May 06, 2021 3:01 am

studio-pots wrote:I think if you spend just a second to look you will see that all of the major auction houses around the world have made mistakes or just not bothered or had the expertise to care about whether something is what they say it is.

As an example of this, my investigation that took a second.. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2010/oct/17/christies-forger-art-scam

A Christies provenance is worth nothing. That's the bottom line and Partridge's using that is a reason for saying this is a bowl by Bernard Leach is absolute b*ll*cks. Not they they did that. They just ignored the question.

Trouble is, the nature of who buys at auction has changed over the years. A lot more inexperienced buyers from the general public are buying, who are not aware of the pitfalls of auctions. That type of Buyer - and there are now a lot of them- Provenance from a Major International Auction House would be a cast iron guarantee.
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