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Post by 22 Crawford St. on August 18th 2016, 6:08 pm

Been off this week and had a good follow of Ebay, and looked back and some sold items lists and it struck me how some potteries/potters are just not for sale any more. There is SFA Parkinson out there, I rarely seen any good Briglin sixties tall vases any more yet a few years ago there was a regular trickle of 10 -15 a year,,,, not seen a good one in months. There has been only x4 bits of Waistel Cooper sold on ebay in the last 3 months and one of those was AF

Perhaps my tastes have changed and I'm more discerning? Perhaps things just dry up ? I have a theory that when this happens then people just move on and the price drops, rather than the price going up as they are scarce. Unless there is a good steady flow of items then what is the point in collecting things.
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Post by NaomiM on August 18th 2016, 6:40 pm

Sometimes there are active collectors for certain things and everyone dumps their stock hoping to get a good price. Briglin seemed to me to be dropping in price because of too much around so I suspect people stopped listing them. I stopped buying them at the charity shops. Waistel never seems particularly abundant. Might have a splurge of two or three on eBay at most once in a blue moon.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on August 18th 2016, 6:44 pm

Welll price for good Briglin is as high as it ever was, problem is that there is none on the ebay market where there used to be a good trickle of large (unusual sixties - not brown) vases. Where have they gone?
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Post by dantheman on August 18th 2016, 7:11 pm

I think the better studio pottery is in short supply on ebay recently, poor examples and cheap pottery is still available

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Post by NaomiM on August 18th 2016, 7:27 pm

People have probably gone on holiday, or stuck in front of the Olympics, or both :)

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Post by denbydump on August 18th 2016, 8:14 pm

22 Crawford St. wrote:Welll price for good Briglin is as high as it ever was, problem is that there is none on the ebay market where there used to be a good trickle of large (unusual sixties - not brown) vases. Where have they gone?

I've bought them all on the boots 22. You need to get up earlier!

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Post by Mordeep on August 18th 2016, 9:47 pm

Tastes always change but I think the reason ebay is slow is simply people worked out during the summer you get terrible prices for most of what you sell. Burned to many times here to list much after the end of June and before early September. I do a lot of low ball bidding though and sometimes get lucky.

Same strategy later on in the year. The fairs slow to a halt at the end of November so I sell anything not nailed down up until about the 10th of December. Then switch to buying a week before Christmas and into the new year. Great prices on things I didn't want and low prices on things I do Excellent

But as for your other point about stocks drying up. I think they are in peoples collections. Often you have to wait 10-15 years after any type of collecting peak for the buyers to start dropping off for them to come back onto the market. It's why we are seeing a huge amount of Torguay available now. Give in another 5 years and it will be Troika/Whitefriars (although many of those buyers are younger so it could be longer). Although that is going to be nothing compared to the Lladro/Swarovski tsunami I expect to crash the internet some time in the future
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Post by 22 Crawford St. on August 18th 2016, 11:39 pm

MD all points taken onboard, people more interested in their tan than than pots, but you can check this with google trends.

DD only the white/black vase falls into my bracket and then it only a medium. I'm taking about large vases. Sixties. BIG. not brown. there have been none for months.

I'm not talking about seasonal changes but supply of items slowing up period. For some reason people start keeping rather than selling.

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=all&q=sun%20tan


https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=all&q=gym

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=all&q=christmas
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Post by philpot on August 19th 2016, 9:42 am

Interesting thread.
As has been said,Summer is the graveyard of selling ceramics on Ebay. You can pick up a few bargains tho.
As to of supply. By its very nature,the best Studio pottery is always going to be uncommon. Sales tend be when people die,or when collecting tastes change. So buy it while you can!
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Post by Mordeep on August 19th 2016, 6:58 pm

I think people are learning that the best of anything have always been difficult to get and worth holding on to.

No matter what it is, when it was made or who made it. Post a picture on here and you will get new fans of the artists if it is a great example. Post an average run of the mill anything and you will get ignored. People don't mean to rude but no one cheers for anyone but the winner or the valiant loser staggering in ten minutes after the race has ended. The rest get ignored it's how the world works.
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Post by philpot on August 21st 2016, 8:46 pm

The pertinent question of course,is what is the 'BEST'? Who decides on it?
How? Fashion? General consensus?
Welllllll a good gallery helps. The Leach/Cardew studio pottery makers received an immense boost from the excellent and eminently professional Goldmark Gallery. A lot of people ended up buying pots they never would have considered without Goldmark.
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Post by NaomiM on August 21st 2016, 8:56 pm

I think the antiques and collectors magazines push trends one way or another. The ones I remember when I started was 19thC Staffordshire Blue & White - you just couldn't get it, but now it's virtually unsalable - and the farmers kitchen style stuff like Quimper and Mottoware. The bottom has since dropped out of that market too.

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