Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
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Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
Hi does anyone recognise this piece/potter?

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many thanks for your time :)




many thanks for your time :)
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
.......it says 'sen no mor'
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
I've come across the cross mark before, but not the others. Not IDed yet. Lots of new leads :) I have a suspicion it's a pottery that provides pottery for reenactments. There is a Moseley Old Hall which might be a lead.
Some other examples -
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237935992/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237502253/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237945838/
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird#79924
Some other examples -
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237935992/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237502253/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237945838/
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird#79924
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
Thanks NaomiM you always come up trumps :) and how interesting is the re enactment link. My ex was in the sealed knot and I remember going along to a battle at old basing. Its a lovely thing so i shall probably hang on to it .
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
I've found one reference to this motto being used on "Metropolitan slipware", made in the 17th century (in Essex, I think) for the London market, and no doubt this is in imitation of the style.
http://archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/ceramics/pages/largerimage.asp?obj_id=115621%20&img_id=51426
Does anyone know how/ if the Trinity Court Potteries in Nottinghamshire mark their reproductions?
http://archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/ceramics/pages/largerimage.asp?obj_id=115621%20&img_id=51426
Does anyone know how/ if the Trinity Court Potteries in Nottinghamshire mark their reproductions?
hercules brabazon-
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
Thanks for the response hercules i had a look on the trinity court website and saw this:
http://www.trinitycourtpotteries.co.uk/Picture%201335.jpg
which is very very similar. i have also emailed them regarding the backstamp so will let you know when/if I get a response.
Makes sense if trinity are copying something thats held at the museum of london
http://www.trinitycourtpotteries.co.uk/Picture%201335.jpg
which is very very similar. i have also emailed them regarding the backstamp so will let you know when/if I get a response.
Makes sense if trinity are copying something thats held at the museum of london
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
I have one of their watering pots. Sadly not marked
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I emailed trinity and they asked for photos which Ive sent they also mentioned that they sometimes mark the tankards inside and they can be hard to find. I will let you know more if they email me back. I do hope that they mark their work, or that could be why there are so many 'old' ceramic items on ebay possibly??
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
It would be great to clear up this mystery :)
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Trinity court got back to me saying that this tankard wasnt one of theirs. I did ask about their backstamps but all they would say is that they sometimes mark inside the tankards, hmmm. Is it just me feeling a bit worried that loads of repros are going onto the market with no identifier?
debbie32- Number of posts : 260
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I have seen many on that internet auction site recently with suggestions that they are older than they are, often with prices that have no sense of reality.
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Re: Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
Pretty sure it's by a pottery supplying re-enactment societies in the 60s-70s. A broken one was dug up by an archaeological team who thought they'd got the real thing until they found the mark. The real one wouldn't have been marked
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