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Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
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mal- Number of posts : 341
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
There was a Trentham Bone China Ltd. that operated in Longton from 1952 to 1957 but your vase is earthenware ............. so it is not from the Potteries but was made in Devon by Devonshire Potteries Ltd. of Bovey Tracey.
They started in 1947 and it is suggested that they used "Trentham Art Ware" from 1959.
They started in 1947 and it is suggested that they used "Trentham Art Ware" from 1959.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
I found that Trentham Bone China works and didnt think it looked right! Then I saw Beswick, Trentham on a web site and got very confused by that too! Thank you for sorting that out.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
So Devonshire Potteries as with the vase but these pieces do look a bit "old fashioned" for the date. I wonder if the company used pre-War moulds bought from the Potteries when companies closed?
Just a thought and I have no evidence to back it up.
Just a thought and I have no evidence to back it up.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
I can see why you'd b confused. Found this under Beswick
Tbh, these two pieces of Trentham Art Ware do look Art Deco, and more like Beswick than 1959 onwards.
I think we need a Beswick Trentham Art Ware stamp for comparison to be sure.
Beswick also made a range of Deco shapes called Trentham Art Ware for a retailer in Nottingham from 1934 to 41 and stamped them accordingly. When the contract finished Beswick continued making some of the shapes, but without the Trentham mark.
Tbh, these two pieces of Trentham Art Ware do look Art Deco, and more like Beswick than 1959 onwards.
I think we need a Beswick Trentham Art Ware stamp for comparison to be sure.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
Thank you. I think they're lovely. I do agree VERY "old fashioned" though.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
Oh Naomi - now that's put the cat amongst the pigeons!
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
I've sent you a link to a pot attributed to Beswick but marked Trenthan Art Ware, and has this stamp. I'd say both pieces are Beswick.
I have a Trentham art pottery cat and it's very different.
I have a Trentham art pottery cat and it's very different.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
I have found the reference that you mention Naomi and I would expect the people responsible for that ought to know more about Beswick than me. Therefore that seems likely as the jug, especially, looks 1930s.
The Nottingham suggestion does seem a bit "neat" though as the river running through Nottingham is the Trent but Trentham itself is about 4 miles from Longton where the Beswick factory was. Maybe?
The Nottingham suggestion does seem a bit "neat" though as the river running through Nottingham is the Trent but Trentham itself is about 4 miles from Longton where the Beswick factory was. Maybe?
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
How do you know about Naomi's Trentham Art Pottery cat!mal wrote:Oh Naomi - now that's put the cat amongst the pigeons!
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
Yup! I'd say that's definitely it! Beswick it is then! Thank you both.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
A retailer in Nottingham commissioned Beswick to produce a number of different Art Deco items for sale between 1934 and 1941 using the name 'Trentham Art Ware'. I'm fairly sure that this is a piece from that range.
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
Thank you Essenjay
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Re: Trentham Art Ware by John Beswick (Staffs).
I am in the process of tidying up the Trentham art ware threads.
HB's excellent research, in this thread,
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t21686-trentham-art-ware-by-devonshire-potteries-ltd-bovey-tracey
gives us the information, though the entry in Goddens,
which is probably out of date, suggests a 1959 date for
Trentham art ware at the Devonshire potteries.
We now have examples of the Devon stickers, and so one
can now attribute these larger deco vessels with the printed marks,
and the impressed numbers to being produced by John Beswick,
from c1933-41.
HB's excellent research, in this thread,
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t21686-trentham-art-ware-by-devonshire-potteries-ltd-bovey-tracey
gives us the information, though the entry in Goddens,
which is probably out of date, suggests a 1959 date for
Trentham art ware at the Devonshire potteries.
We now have examples of the Devon stickers, and so one
can now attribute these larger deco vessels with the printed marks,
and the impressed numbers to being produced by John Beswick,
from c1933-41.
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