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Post by sunnyices2 on September 19th 2013, 12:56 pm

beautifully cast and the best miniature cannon gun i have see so far on internet site auction... i might be wrong.... but can this be a one of piece for a military officer or war lord for is desk top? why has it got star sign? am not sure i haven't really done some research only looked online for similar cannon gun but so far, what i have seen isn't like this one... all comment accepted and thanks guys for taking the time to look at my item's and reply... i do really appreciate your kind effort  

























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Post by sunnyices2 on September 19th 2013, 1:02 pm

found this at a car boot sale not far from my area... when purchasing this item an elderly gentle man was at my back hoping i was going drop it as it isn't my field.. but decided to go for it because the casting is amazing.. the gentle man said to me he wanted to offer £100 for it so i new it might be worth something

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Post by beedragon on September 19th 2013, 1:54 pm

I just had a discussion with my boss who is a military buff. He suspects that the metal pieces are 1800s but that the wooden components are replacements. He says the Maltese cross indicates Malta or Knights of Columbus.

Over here, in Canada, he would expect to pay up to $600 for something like this. He thinks that the cannon might have once been able to fire ceremonially but that that the 'touch hole' might have been filled in due to the discolouration at the top of the barrel near the non-shooting end (my terminology, not his).

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 19th 2013, 3:19 pm

thank you beedragon the information receive will go a long way.. you've made my day by going that far to ask your boss who's into military stuff.. thanks again mate :)

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Post by NaomiM on September 19th 2013, 4:01 pm

The carriage looks like its made out of a thick plywood, implying Victorian or later in age. There doesn't appear to be a hole for the fuse, implying its a late copy. It also doesn't have any of the extra bits one would expect on an original piece like dolphins. It lookalike its a whitish metal rather than the brass/bronze one would expect if it was an original piece. It should also have test firing numbers/letters, if it was an original military piece.
All in all its just an ornament. Probably made fairly recently.

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 19th 2013, 4:27 pm

just had a look at it once again and judging from the metal work... it is brass metal that has been discolored over the years... when you look at the circles line decoration then you will see the brass metal underneath... i have seen a cannon dealer online will email him about this piece... because he sold one similar to the one i have now.. but without the stand and handle.. so is best i email him as he or she deals only on antique cannon gun.

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 19th 2013, 4:48 pm

perhaps this gun cannon was silver plated when it was first made or maybe later.. because i see no reason why the brass metal is coming throw some parts of it.

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Post by NaomiM on September 19th 2013, 5:22 pm

Does it have a hole for the fuse (touch hole)? If not, it's just a replica/ornament.

What size is the barrel?

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 20th 2013, 1:53 am

Am afraid I cannot find any hole but there is a part at the end of it, that looks like is been filled or repaired... Maybe that is the hole am not certain... Just awaiting the specialist I contacted regarding this piece that deals on only cannon guns.

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 20th 2013, 11:05 am

lenth is 10cm long and the gun hole itself is 1cm in diameter

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Post by NaomiM on September 20th 2013, 11:11 am

sunnyices2 wrote:lenth is 10cm long and the gun hole itself is 1cm in diameter  
That's tiny. I thought the plywood carriage was thick hand cut Victorian ply, but this is just regular ply that's been stained.

sunnyices2 wrote:found this at a car boot sale not far from my area... when purchasing this item an elderly gentle man was at my back hoping i was going drop it as it isn't my field.. but decided to go for it because the casting is amazing.. the gentle man said to me he wanted to offer £100 for it so i new it might be worth something

Sounds like a ringer to me; someone planted there to make you want to buy it.
There are good canons going on ebay for a quarter of that.

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Post by sunnyices2 on September 20th 2013, 12:51 pm

Big Laughter yeah very true.. that fella come in after i decided to purchase it... so he said to me he was gonna offer that and walked away... i did not pay anything close to hundred pounds... you might be right might be replica... just waiting on that specialist as yet to get back to me.

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