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Post by styleinvasion on June 26th 2013, 11:50 am

                   

the brooch was part of an ugly hat my girl bought herself on this weekends fleamarket for an euro
she didn't even realized it's a good piece of jewelry, just thought it's not looking good at her new hat.
it's 5cm in height and very well made and should be from about 1860-70 i believe.
i've been at an antique dealers shop yesterday and have tested the purity there.
the gold part is somewhere between 750 and 900...
the friendly man said the flower with the diamond and the cord surrounding the golden part might be platinum because silver should be more patinated.
he said white gold hasn't been used these days?
he hasn't got a platinum test...
any clues if it might be platinum?
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Post by NaomiM on June 26th 2013, 12:14 pm

Did he test it for gold using the gold test? It would be positive for gold if it was white gold. He could also test it for being silver. If it's negative for both those, that would narrow it down to being platinum.

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Post by NaomiM on June 26th 2013, 12:16 pm

Looks like a mourning brooch, with the black background and the forget-me-not flower.

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Post by styleinvasion on June 26th 2013, 8:03 pm

realism morning brooch, you are right as usual
been at his shop again... the needle is between 750 and 900
the brooch at least 585 and the rose is to close to the onyx to get tested without the danger to damage something...
it should be silver i guess...
not white gold which really hasnt been used at that time.
and i have read that platinum has been rarely used as well...
they've normally throwed platinum away because they have thought that it is half finished gold and worthless at around 1850-1870
an infos if this is true?
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Post by NaomiM on June 26th 2013, 8:45 pm

and i have read that platinum has been rarely used as well..

Not necessarily. Admittedly it would not be as fashionable as gold back in Victorian times because it could be mistaken for the cheaper silver (it became more fashionable in the 20th Century), but that doesn't mean it wasn't used, for practical purposes. It's much more likely to be platinum than silver because it's the harder metal. There would be a risk of the diamonds falling out if mounted in silver, hence silver being used more commonly as a mount for semi-precious stones. Since gold would be too flashy for a mourning brooch, I think the likelihood it's platinum is very high.

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Post by styleinvasion on June 26th 2013, 9:33 pm

maybe i should try to cut of a slim stripe of slate to get it tested though.... would be easier to rub off a little of the flower if i do...
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Post by Dannd on October 21st 2013, 12:47 am

Hello!

Its definitely a later Victorian mourning brooch, by the pin I would date it to around 1880-1890 maybe a bit later as the pin is quite thin and the hinge is of a newer style. White gold was patented around 1910 I believe so its not white gold. I believe its silver and probably sterling (the antiques dealer could have tested this with the 18kt gold acid). I dont know why he would say it's not tarnished? It looks very tarnished to me. The edges arent tarnished because everyones been touching it but the base definitely is. The rope like detail around the edge is definitely tarnished silver and all the higher traffic areas on the rope are clean because they are more often rubbed than in the creases. Did he test the diamonds to make sure they were diamonds? They look like nice rose cut diamonds and if they are you could probably carefully polish the silver up a bit more to make them sparkle nicely. If they are foiled paste (which I dont think so) the polishing could ruin it. The black looks like onyx as well. Very nice detailed piece Id love for my collection! Good luck!
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