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Re: Leach Pottery - St. Ives

Post by mowen on November 1st 2013, 10:53 pm

I was just wondering, as have not noticed a pot with both the BL stamp and the England stamp on the same pot before, so it led me to wonder if there was an overlap between using the England stamp and BL still potting. I am feeling more confident now that this can be attributed to BL.
I an very happy with my brown jam pot! :) x x
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Re: Leach Pottery - St. Ives

Post by studio-pots on November 1st 2013, 11:05 pm

mowen wrote: I am feeling more confident now that this can be attributed to BL.
I an very happy with my brown jam pot! :) x x
I am not sure that me telling you that ENGLAND was stamped on Leach Pottery wares when Bernard Leach was alive means that you can attribute anything to Bernard Leach.

Things that are important with something the age of your jam pot before making such an attribution are that it was made at the Leach Pottery, it has the Leach Pottery seal and that it has Bernard Leach's personal seal or signature done with a brush.

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Post by NaomiM on November 1st 2013, 11:35 pm

Bernard Leach died in 1979 so I wouldn't have thought that the BL and England stamps necessarily mean the item is 'early' St Ives Pottery, just that it was made during his lifetime.

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Post by studio-pots on November 2nd 2013, 9:23 am

NaomiM wrote:Bernard Leach died in 1979 so I wouldn't have thought that the BL and England stamps necessarily mean the item is 'early' St Ives Pottery, just that it was made during his lifetime.
As the Leach Pottery started life in 1920 it would be incorrect to describe an item of Leach Pottery with an ENGLAND stamp on it as being "early". The term "vintage", which only really says that an item is not new, would be fine and in the case of the Leach Pottery is perhaps more relevant than with other potteries due to the current pottery on the site using the Leach Pottery name.

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Handled bowls Leach, St. Ives, Standard Ware

Post by vanmann on November 19th 2013, 1:33 pm

I am assuming that these are St Ives and hoping someone could give me a clue as to potter and date. Bowls 5 inches including handles  and saucers 6 inches diameter. Thanks John





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Post by vanmann on November 19th 2013, 3:03 pm

Now see that these are standard ware ramekins, would these be 1970s?
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Post by NaomiM on November 19th 2013, 3:12 pm

Seems Standard ware was even made back in the 40s

http://www.ceramike.com/LeachPottery/StandardWarePots/LeachStandardWare.asp

I've always assumed that those pieces stamped England indicated an earlier date (1940s), but I have nothing to back that up.

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Post by eshearm on November 19th 2013, 5:31 pm

'standard ware' range was not developed until just before the war, when they issued the first mail order catalogue, and it grew into a great undertaking into the 1950s and 1960s, I suspected this is the date for these items. I have items at home with the england mark well into the seventies, so not sure on that one.
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Post by eshearm on November 19th 2013, 5:37 pm

for the standard ware they had a team of potters, David leach as manager Bernard leach as chief quality controller and William Marshall as foreman, so it will be impossible to pin point a potter, although Bernard's distinct hand can sometimes be seen on some items
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Post by studio-pots on November 19th 2013, 5:48 pm

I met one of the apprentices, who worked at the pottery in the 1960s, and he told me that these ramekins or egg bakers, were the first thing that anyone new at the pottery was asked to make. They were sold separately from the "general purposes dishes" that you have. They continued to be in production into the 1970s and only stopped being made when Bernard died. Bernard insisted that the pottery continued to make the Standard Ware range but once he died Janet stopped production.

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Post by slopingsteve on November 26th 2013, 8:30 pm

Has anybody got any pots with the St Ives mark on and David Leach's mark as well?
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Post by big ed on December 8th 2013, 6:29 pm


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Post by studio-pots on February 17th 2014, 3:45 pm

I have had the small stoneware Leach Pottery vase below for a number of years but have not been able to identify the potter.





As the vase seemed Japanese in style and the personal seal is a stylised A, I did think that it might have been by Atsuya Hamada, Shoji's third son, who was at the Leach Pottery in the 1950s. However, I did show it to Bill Marshall in the past and he didn't recognise the seal so it may well remain a mystery.

The vase is around 10 cm (4 inches) tall so not very large but my investment was only 50p.

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Re: Leach Pottery - St. Ives

Post by slopingsteve on March 23rd 2014, 4:51 pm




Does anyone know what this second mark is? I know what it looks like and I would love to think that the two were meant to be together, as in fact they are. I was reading something on here about fakes made in Chinese prisons.

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Post by NaomiM on March 23rd 2014, 5:17 pm

Looks like DL, presumably for David Leach

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Re: Leach Pottery - St. Ives

Post by slopingsteve on March 23rd 2014, 6:36 pm



This is the pot. It looks pretty much like a Standard ware large tureen to me.
The inside green glaze is very familiar. But why and when would David Leach have put his mark on it?

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Post by NaomiM on March 23rd 2014, 6:52 pm

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Yes, Standard Ware, very like Big Ed's one, above.
I guess he marked it simply because he made it.

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Post by big ed on March 23rd 2014, 6:58 pm

Yes exactly, I think it was David that was instrumental in starting this type of ware .

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Post by NaomiM on March 23rd 2014, 8:04 pm

Heres a partial list of potters and pupils, but I don't see another DL or LD. Simplest thing may be to ask David Leach if it's his mark.

http://www.cornishceramics.com/pleach.htm

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Post by NaomiM on March 23rd 2014, 11:05 pm

Well there are catalogue pages showing this 'stew pot' in the 40s and 50s. If it's David Leach's mark then presumably it was made while he was there in the 30-50s.

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Post by big ed on March 24th 2014, 3:20 pm

I read he was instrumental in introducing the standard ware when he came back in 1938 when he made a few changes at the pottery , I can see no reason at all to doubt it is his mark , maybe it's an earlier piece ,who knows , but for me it's ok Ld , St ives , noone else fits the bill  Shrugs 

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Post by studio-pots on March 26th 2014, 1:50 pm

I don't know if it is a mark used by David Leach or not but the spoon hole on your piece is something that I don't think I have seen on Standard Ware tureens.

Ed is correct about David developing the Standard Ware and it could be a prototype but I am only guessing.

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Post by big ed on March 26th 2014, 2:05 pm

http://www.ceramike.com/LeachPottery/StandardWarePots/LeachStandardWare.asp

some tureens /stew pots with spoon holes , various sizes

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Post by studio-pots on March 26th 2014, 4:05 pm

Thanks Ed - I suppose I don't take much notice of casseroles and their orifices!

However, it is interesting that Mike in the link says that he has used the 1946 and 1952 catalogues and the holes are not shown in a later catalogue that I have, so they seem to have been phased out at some point perhaps in the 1960s.

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Re: Leach Pottery - St. Ives

Post by philpot on March 27th 2014, 6:28 am



I tried this yesterday,and didn't get the photo up!
Any ideas on this St Ives item?
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