murano ashtray?

can anyone ID this piece? i think it's a fancy ashtray, but the shape reminds me of an oyster dish or even and egg poacher.

I seem to recall that these are Czech.

I have 4 of these, they are murano .

I assume there are labels present? If so, photos would be handy so perhaps a manufacturer might be divined from them (although they may look like generic Murano labels, sometimes factories used certain identifiable labels).

It's surprising, though, because the hotworked nature of these bowls always seemed more conducive to a Czech, or possibly Romanian, origin.

N.B. Two threads from the GMB concerning these bowls, both pointing towards a Romanian origin:

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,21462.0.html

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7628.msg64670.html#msg64670

that's the great thing about the forum,we constantly learn from each other

Nic wrote:N.B. Two threads from the GMB concerning these bowls, both pointing towards a Romanian origin:

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,21462.0.html

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the answer one of the members gave was he saw a romania sticker on a bow tie vase, not an ashtray , also said they were murano , maybe not poli , but murano , have had a few of these in the past, one with a murano label ( badly worn admitted ) and they have been quoted in some guides as murano , never seen a romania sticker on any of them , so every thing points to murano they are of very good quality for the price , murano faceted pieces are still being made , but I have these for about 15 years at least

David E, in the referenced thread above, was saying he had spotted the ashtray in question with a Romania sticker and that the 'Bow-Tie' vase was possibly Mandruzatto of Murano.

The style of them... just doesn't say "Italian" to me.

Oh well , until someone comes up with positive proof , I guess we will never know , too many maybe's and possibly's to be sure.

Stylistically they have much more in common with glass from Eastern Europe than from Murano, as in this Chřibská catalogue:

http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/CHRIBSkA1999?authkey=Gv1sRgCKjbrouFiseK2gE#5435069478701381266

But, yes, there's no way of telling who did what exactly until a decent labelled one comes up, and someone can track down the factory.

this is why i give glass a wide berth