West German pottery - identification help please

These two pieces came from the estate of a woman who collected West
German pottery and porcelain. The other pieces I picked up were easily
identified but these seem to be beyond me. I'm hoping the photos will
help someone more expert than myself. Any help appreciated!

I cannot read what is on the first one , the second vase is Carstens .

I've been doing some more searching and found a similar painted item
with an identical logo but apparently on a paper label.

First is typical Ulmer Keramik

I can confirm that the second vase is definitely Carstens (if you check the Carstens thread in the main section you should find one virtually identical).