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Post by jimjam April 23rd 2012, 5:50 pm

Hurrah! - Ive just acquired my very first bit of Poole Jumping For Joy (thanks to you lot!)
Ive looked through the Poole threads but cant seem to work out when this was made??
Any help would be smashing Most Excellent

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Post by dantheman April 23rd 2012, 6:09 pm

1950's I think,it's not my area of interest but I think it may have been decorated by Hazel Allner

it's the CS pattern designed by Truda Carter

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Post by dantheman April 23rd 2012, 6:14 pm

and the shape was designed by Guy Sydenham and Alfred Reid in 1957 so that's the year it was made (I think)

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Post by gareth-h April 23rd 2012, 10:03 pm

That shape was around in the 1930's but 1955 - 1957 is right for the date.
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Post by gareth-h April 24th 2012, 10:12 pm

Good luck. Buy what you like but, with traditional ware, keep in mind
- patterns were simplified in 1951 and again in 1963 for cost reasons. Pre-1950's is more sought after and generally more attractive. The more detailed / complex the pattern the better.
- from 1922 - 1934 a red earthenware was used which has more character and is most popular with collectors
- from 1935 white earthenware was used but for a couple of years they painted the bottom a salmon colour to make it look like the red!
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Post by Davee April 24th 2012, 10:37 pm

I think you are missing a lid, it should be a biscuit barrel.

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Post by jimjam April 25th 2012, 4:54 pm

Davee wrote:I think you are missing a lid, it should be a biscuit barrel.

Yes I thought it was missing a lid. I was going to ask for discount but didnt! Waaah Stupid question but is the bamboo handle original? it looks too new?
Ive just got 3 more items from ebay, quite similar to this, so in just 2 days Ive acquired 4 pieces Jumping For Joy

Thanks Gareth for that info, I love the earlier art deco pieces, but out of my price range. I will look in more detail about the designs and patterns now that i have some.

thank you
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Post by dantheman April 25th 2012, 7:06 pm

jimjam wrote:
Davee wrote:I think you are missing a lid, it should be a biscuit barrel.

Yes I thought it was missing a lid. I was going to ask for discount but didnt! Waaah Stupid question but is the bamboo handle original? it looks too new?
Ive just got 3 more items from ebay, quite similar to this, so in just 2 days Ive acquired 4 pieces Jumping For Joy

Thanks Gareth for that info, I love the earlier art deco pieces, but out of my price range. I will look in more detail about the designs and patterns now that i have some.

thank you

the handle was made at the Stoke on Trent workshop for the blind geek

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Post by ppcollectables April 25th 2012, 7:48 pm

Whilst on the subject of biscuit barrels and their lids, I have a 'V' pattern biscuit barrel ( also known as leo the lion pattern ) which is looking for a suitable lid - can anyone help ? If anyone is looking for a wicker handle I have a green one which originally came from a 1930's Apple Green biscuit barrel. The problem with finding a lid to match is that they can all vary v.slightly in diameter and the coloured bands have got to match the particular colours of the main barrel.
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Post by jimjam April 30th 2012, 5:40 pm

Here are my first 4 items of Poole......... Jumping For Joy

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Post by NaomiM May 23rd 2012, 6:45 pm

My little Poole collection.

I've always liked the flowery Poole, but never been able to afford it in the past. Prices at the local antiques fairs seem to have come off the boil in recent months and are now falling, so they're far more affordable.
I think the sgraffito lion attacking the deer is an unusual one.

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Post by maxustaxus May 23rd 2012, 9:23 pm

Yes the Lion and deer is a little unusual. It looks like a very simplified version of John Adam's LZ bushvelt design. And whereas some of Truda Carter's designed were simplified for this scrafitto range, I don't recall seeing this particular pattern before.

I agree on the price piont, may be a good time too buy then.

An example below of one of mine which I am fond of.

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Post by NaomiM May 23rd 2012, 9:56 pm

Is that the 'bluebird' pattern? Met a stall holder offering a bluebird bowl at half price - £60 - last month. A bit too big for my shelves, though.

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Post by maxustaxus May 24th 2012, 10:29 pm

TBH, I am not sure what it is called. Those collectors more serious than me have variously described bird like patterns of the period in a range of colourful terms, e.g.,

Blue Bird
Flying Bird
Mocking Bird
Comic Bird
Song Bird (most often described this way)

I have no idea which this is. Nor have I seen an original pattern book which gives such illustrative names for this particular thing. However, for what it is worth it has the more prosaic mark on the underside of 230/SN.

BTW, I think you were right to pass by the bowl, nothing worse than pottery that is hard to fit in display wise.
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Post by dantheman May 24th 2012, 10:32 pm

also I don't think £60 is half the present market value, more like top end

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Post by NaomiM May 24th 2012, 11:10 pm

dantheman wrote:also I don't think £60 is half the present market value, more like top end

It was a big bowl. Happy
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Post by gareth-h May 27th 2012, 9:58 pm

Poole didn't give names to the patterns, just letters. Names have been given later by collectors. Blue bird usually refers to the PB, PN or HE patterns, all of which had similar birds such as this.

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The biscuit barrel pattern is quite rare. I'm not sure it has a name, it is more of a lilac bird than a blue bird.
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Post by bistoboy July 16th 2012, 8:36 am

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On an evening walk last night, we passed the Tangier pub in Baffins, Portsmouth. What an architectural gem! and what a lovely surprise to find two tile murals by Carter's of Poole on the outside.
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Post by dantheman July 16th 2012, 12:16 pm

well spotted Bisty! I haven't seen that one before,Poole has several tiled panels dotted around the town

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Post by gareth-h July 16th 2012, 8:51 pm

That's brilliant! The close-up has the monogram for James Radley Young who was Head of Design in 1911. He was also responsible for introducing tin glazed pots at Poole, which were the basis of the successful traditional wares of the 1920's and '30s.
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Post by scavo August 6th 2012, 12:54 pm

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I think probably fits into the 'traditional' category, but I think the backstamp is 1960s.

I assume the 'ICW' mark are the initials of the decorator and '302' is the mould number.
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Post by dantheman August 6th 2012, 1:25 pm

yes it is traditional range,I think the design was called Floriana Sprig (code KW) and was designed by Ruth Pavely in 1956.
The three parallel lines are the decorators mark and possibly belonged to a lady with the unfortunate name of June March Laughter

302 would be the item number and I think it's a cigarette box

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Post by scavo August 6th 2012, 3:33 pm

I thought cigarette or trinket box.

Thanks for the info. Not much of it on ebay, nor in my price guides.
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Post by dantheman February 22nd 2013, 9:25 pm

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I must ask him to join our forum

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Post by dantheman February 22nd 2013, 9:31 pm

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I have seen the ebay seller Get Carter around for years but didn't know he was a certified Poolie

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