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Post by NaomiM on July 15th 2012, 6:03 pm

Oh fudge! Don't you just hate it when you take a photo and it shows up a rather nasty hairline that extends almost the whole way round the piece.

Anyway, checking through the other uploads on the thread I think the BR may be Barbara Ross.

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Post by Moxi on July 15th 2012, 6:08 pm

Thanks for the info. The seller thought it may be the artist initials and number of pieces but that didn't make sense to me. I found references to the coronation on a few other sites so thought that might be the case. Some lovely pieces on this forum, I especially like the Barbara Ross blue lady bowl..just lovely. I'll be looking for more Chelsea Pottery in my travels, that is for sure.
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Post by dantheman on July 15th 2012, 6:38 pm

NaomiM wrote:Oh fudge! Don't you just hate it when you take a photo and it shows up a rather nasty hairline that extends almost the whole way round the piece.

Anyway, checking through the other uploads on the thread I think the BR may be Barbara Ross.

yes I think it is

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Post by jonbearwood on August 7th 2012, 6:00 pm

I got this a while back. Confused me at first with the Bahamas inscription but I understand subsequently that David Rawnsley left London for the Bahamas in around 1958/59.

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Re: Chelsea Pottery (London)

Post by 22 Crawford St. on September 16th 2012, 10:25 pm

OOhh, EIIR - 1953 - I have one also Moxi! Thanks, so simple when you know. Mine is really, really nice but with a large firing fault in the centre. Someone put a lot of Innocent LOVE Innocent into this large dish - Three Tropical Fish swimming on a green background. Marked "EIIR Chelsea Pottery 1953". I will post images but trust me its LOVELY No monogram.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on September 16th 2012, 10:42 pm

Just looked on the V&A website and it's exactly the same as the fish dishes there. Amazing quality. Those are 20cm and this one is 30cm


http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19230/fossil-fish-series-dish-corke-daphne/

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19231/bowl-corke-daphne/

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19232/dish-drummond-john/
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Post by dantheman on September 17th 2012, 12:13 pm

John Drummond is a new name added to my Chelsea decorators list

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Re: Chelsea Pottery (London)

Post by 22 Crawford St. on September 17th 2012, 9:43 pm

Elizabeth, then aged 26, ascended the thrones of these countries upon the death of her father, King George VI, on 6 February 1952, and was proclaimed queen by her various privy and executive councils shortly afterwards. The coronation was held more than a year after the accession, on 2 June 1953. This followed the tradition that a festival such as a coronation was inappropriate during the period of mourning that followed the death of the preceding sovereign.

Bistowboy this is the Wiki entry which succinctly explains the 52/53 disparity. I didn't know this...you learn something new every day.....but it was before my time..

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Joyce Morgan footed owl bowl

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1953 E II R Chelsea Angel Fish Dish

Post by 22 Crawford St. on October 7th 2012, 5:52 pm

This Chelsea dish epitomizes why I love ceramics; It is beautiful but it is also interesting.

Every now and then something a little different, something a little special comes your way and this time providence sought me out and it was my turn. It came to me cheaply so it was even more of a surprise as it slowly dawned on me what I had. It is an earthenware 1953 E II R Chelsea Angel Fish Dish, and a very pretty thing. It is not normal quality Chelsea, it's a special piece which is why someone must have sworn rather loudly and for some time when this was warm out of the kiln Waaah as it unfortunately has a large firing crack centre which runs through from the base and is visible on the front of the dish as a recognizable ragged line approximately 70mm long. But to me it matters not, without the crack the dish would not have come my way and I would not be describing it to you now. Most Excellent

Three tropical fish swim from right to left, (Angel Fish ~ Pterophyllum altum) one on the left and two on the right of a 300mm wide x 100mm high, large footed earthenware bowl. The base and underside have been left unglazed in red clay. It is marked "E II R / Chelsea Pottery / 1953" on the foot. It carries no other monogram or signature to identify who made it. The fish swim on a pale green speckled ground decorated with underwater plants and seaweed.

The overall effect is mesmerising. The fish seem to swim through the centre of the dish because of the steep 'V' shape, and the dish draws you into itself. I particularity like the way the rim has been left unglazed framing the decoration and the speckled ground slightly darkens towards the upper edge. The surface of the glaze is by no means flat and light reflects off the detail making the fish and plants sparkle. The V&A mentions 'inlay and overlay technique', can anyone explain this please?. The dish itself is quite light and finely thrown which may have contributed to the firing damage, this would have been caused by tensions building up in he clay either through inconsistent firing or drying and from what I've read online base cracks are not uncommon.

It has plenty of finger marks on the unglazed underside and I like the way the previous owners have left many marks whilst handling it over the last nearly sixty years. I enjoy seeing the finger marks and it's nice to think that each owner adds a little to the plate (ahh, yes... that is mashed potato stuck to the foot on the photograph, sorry, I was eating dinner).

Origin. There are apparently four other Chelsea Pottery dishes in the V&A collection. All were donated by David Rawnsley. For a while I pondered on when they were donated, but their Museum number seems to hold the clue C.73-1953, CIRC.406-1953, CIRC.407-1953, C.74-1953, I think it's OK to assume 1953. All four are 200mm in diamater and range from 35mm to 77mm in height. There is a Bird plate by Joyce Morgan, a Fossel Fish by Daphne Cork and also a Crab dish by the same maker and lastly a beautiful Fish (Barracuda?) Dish by John Drummond. All are described as inscribed "E II R / Chelsea Pottery / 1953". The fat bird is singed 'jem' which makes me conclude that the Angel Fish Dish is not by Joyce as it probably would have been monogrammed. There may well be other makers of this series not represented. I have not a clue where any of the other plates are. I'm thinking they were not sold, or that they were not made to be sold. Apart from the Barracuda dish by John Drummond, the other three are technically great but not in my mind anyway very pretty. There is an ugly gawking fossil fish that would probably scare little children at least as well as a Martins Brothers tobacco jar, a fat JM bird and a spindly crab. Could I be right in saying that David did not donate the best in the series?

I don't know who made the Angel Fish dish, but certainly it has similarities to all the V&A dishes and is almost certainly part of the same series made in 1953. How many dishes were made in the series? Did they make others of 300mm diameter? How may series were there? Fish, Birds? I don't know. A trawl of the internet pulls up nothing except at the V&A - All of the 1953 pieces available are not of this ilk. Checking my photographs from my summer visit to the V&A ceramics gallery, I can see that three of the dishes are on the storage shelves and the fat bird is on display in room 140 Factory Ceramics. All the others in the series must be locked in someone's cupboard somewhere. I assume they stayed in the possession of the potters and their families and those connected with Chelsea pottery. Currently I think the Angel Fish dish is also by Daphne Cork. The only reason for this is that I think the grounds look very similar. Weak I know. I need to take a peek at them. Matching the handwriting 'Chelsea Pottery' on the base would conclude the matter.

To me the four Chelsea plates in the V&A collection say something about post war Britain. They don't just represent the wares of Chelsea Pottery or the potters who made them but more of a era, a time, someone was showing off, they we the finest pottery they could make, the finest Pottery London could make. It was just after the war and Chelsea Pottery was new, founded in 1952 it was unfurling it's wings in time for the 1953 Coronation.

How much does the damage put you all off this plate? Opinions please? I see firing damage as less significant than human damage. To me a large chunk taken out of the rim would spoil the plate more than the firing crack. In all other respects it's fine, no chips, no hairlines, just the finger marks and mash potato on the underside.

What to do with it? I could keep it locked away in a cupboard for another 40 years or sell it to someone else who could lock it away their cupboard for 40 years. Perhaps it's not worth much because of the damage? I'm unhappy about selling it for a profit as it came to me cheaply. Perhaps the dish was meant to come to me? It just seems a shame that it can't be seen or enjoyed by more people. I'll try to keep you informed and I 'll try to make another V&A visit and photograph the other dishes as best as I can.

Anyway, I think it is really interesting. What do you think? Smush
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Re: Chelsea Pottery (London)

Post by 22 Crawford St. on October 7th 2012, 5:58 pm

Links:

x4 V&A dishes as posted previously.

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19230/fossil-fish-series-dish-corke-daphne/
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19231/bowl-corke-daphne/
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19232/dish-drummond-john/
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O19233/dish-morgan-joyce/

Pterophyllum altum

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Pterophyllum+altum&rlz=1C1ASUM_en-GBGB471GB471&aq=f&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D13&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=_cJoUJNNqJzRBZ2ZgRA&biw=1400&bih=963&sei=_8JoUMuyHcfX0QXK-oGwCA

Cracking and Warping:by John Hesselberth

http://www.frogpondpottery.com/articles/crackwrp.html


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Post by 22 Crawford St. on October 7th 2012, 6:07 pm

Bird dish on display and the other three in storage.





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Re: Chelsea Pottery (London)

Post by dantheman on October 7th 2012, 6:36 pm

what a lovely and unusual example! How big is it please and is it signed?

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Unusual Chelsea Pottery piece

Post by BStagg on May 10th 2013, 2:32 pm

Wondering if anyone here is familiar with any of the many Chelsea potters creating room settings - handbuilt work. The one I have is a pub scene with barmaid behind a counter - keg and bottles on counter, customer sitting at a round table in the corner - sign in back of bar says "The Queen's Arms."
An inked, square stamp on unglazed bottom says CHELSEA POTTERY, 15 Radnor Walk, London, S.W.S. ENGLAND.

The "room" measures about 7 inches wide and 5 inches tall. Standing barmaid is about 4 inches tall.

Can't determine signature on one of side outer walls - first name looks to be 4 letters starting with C or G - last name looks to be 5-6 letters starting with T and ending in n.
At bottom edge below signature is inscribed Chelsea Pottery Made in England

Will post pictures as soon as I get a few made.

Piece was given to me by friend who bought it in London, probably in 1970s/80s.

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Unusual Chelsea Pottery Piece

Post by BStagg on May 10th 2013, 2:45 pm

(Also posted in Studio Pottery) Wondering if anyone here is familiar with any of the many Chelsea potters creating room settings - handbuilt work. The one I have is a pub scene with barmaid behind a counter - keg and bottles on counter, male customer sitting at a round table in the corner - sign in back of bar says "The Queen's Arms."
An inked, square stamp on unglazed bottom says CHELSEA POTTERY, 15 Radnor Walk, London, S.W.S. ENGLAND.

The "room" measures about 7 inches wide and 5 inches tall. Standing barmaid is about 4 inches tall.

Can't determine signature on one of side outer walls - first name looks to be 4 letters starting with C or G - last name looks to be 5-6 letters starting with T and ending in n.
At bottom edge below signature is inscribed Chelsea Pottery Made in England

Will post pictures as soon as I get a few made.

Piece was given to me by friend who bought it in London, probably in 1970s/80s.

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Post by dantheman on May 10th 2013, 4:05 pm

sounds inrigueing!
We need to see the photo's really

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Joyce Morgan Fish Design

Post by Mei on September 7th 2013, 8:54 am



Greetings fellow pottery lovers! I'm new to this site. I wanted to share this find with you.
Such a beautiful design by Joyce Morgan. Does anyone know any more info on this particular fish design?

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Post by dantheman on September 7th 2013, 2:23 pm

I think the fish design is quite rare

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By Audrey Durnan

Post by AJD01 on September 12th 2013, 6:24 pm

dantheman wrote:

21cm sweet bowl,standing on 3 legs with an impressed Chelsea pottery stamp on the back,I'm guessing the decorator's initials are DA?
Sorry, I just found this forum and would have responded earlier had I known.  It's a pleasure to see so much of my work and those with whom I worked at Chelsea Pottery.   This example (and several others) is "AD" for Audrey Durnan.  I'm sure everyone here knows of Chris Blanchett's great compendia of British art and commercial tiles.  If not, take a look at his "20th Century Decorative British Tiles: Craft & Studio Tile Makers" on page 55 for his discussion of Chelsea Pottery 1952-1997.  He shows most of the sgraffito identification marks that we used both on tiles and on pottery.  I was there from 1965 to 1972 and it was a most enjoyable time.  Presently, I have a (not pottery, I'm afraid) studio in Pasadena California.  I won't respond to each of these, but am happy to help identifying some tricky ones, if I was there.

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Post by dantheman on September 12th 2013, 6:29 pm

welcome ,
Do you remember any other names from your time there?

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Chelsea Pottery (London) 1965-72

Post by AJD01 on September 12th 2013, 8:02 pm

dantheman wrote:welcome ,
Do you remember any other names from your time there?
 
Yes.  Here are some:
 
Betty Dennison Hunt (mainly did the casting)
Jim Rose (mainly did the firing)
Joan ??? (mainly slab work)
Frank Spindler (sp. ?) (throwing and maker of Judge figures and the round plates of different sizes)
Joyce Morgan (decorator)
Barbara Ross (decorator)
Jenny Delange (sp. ?) (decorator/ New Zealand) [her sgraffito is a sylised "del"]
Hazel Levy (decorator)
Audrey Durnan (decorator)
Brian Hubbard (chief)
 
Blanchett has Christina Sheppard at the pottery between c1960 and c1975; her work is totally unfamiliar to me and I am not aware of having met her.  Each decorator's  work is fairly easy to identify.
 
Hope this helps,
Audrey
 
PS  As for the "amateur" thread, there were many many classes given (for a fee) the whole time.  On occasion, they would use the Chelsea pottery blanks.
PSS  We tended to buy pre-formed blank Huntington tiles for decoration -- I did the wall of sunflower tiles for the "Chelsea Potter" on the King's Road.  Is it still there?
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Post by AJD01 on September 12th 2013, 8:04 pm

dantheman wrote:
Might be Hazel Levy.
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Post by AJD01 on September 12th 2013, 8:07 pm

dantheman wrote:

I got this bowl today,the foot has a hole in it for wall mounting and someone has cleverly put an eyed split pin through that hole. I have screwed a hook into the underside of a shelf and hung the bowl which allows lots of movement the light then catches the colours in lots of different ways plus it also gives the illusion that the butterfly is airborne.
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Post by AJD01 on September 12th 2013, 8:10 pm

dantheman wrote:A lovely 12cm pin dish

 
Joyce (she like doing insects and small animals).
Nice collection of the old lead glazes here.
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