Wedgwood/Keith Murray "football"(?) design - later two-tone version?

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Post by J2020 on October 11th 2017, 11:58 pm

Any Wedgwood/Keith Murray experts out there who might be able to give their opinion about a vase I
acquired recently (bought on impulse without previously knowing anything about the Wedgwood/KM connection!) ..?
(see photos)

It appears to be a two-tone glazed version of vase shape 3765 ("football"?) in green ("celadon" ?) and
off-white (cream?) (ground) but with slightly less pronounced annular stepping and no hanging-lip at the
opening rim.

The base has under-glaze impressed marks "WEDGWOOD", "MADE IN ENGLAND" and another mark (possibly
incomplete?) which could be interpreted as either "3", "W" or "M" (?). There are no other factory marks
or signatures.

I've searched the web but found nothing similar...
Is it a later/modernised version of the 1930's original?, - any ideas? (date, pattern etc)
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Post by J2020 on October 12th 2017, 12:03 am

...sorry, forgot to include photos in last post! - hopefully attached to this one




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Post by truk10 on October 14th 2017, 10:47 am

Hi

Nice vase. There is a variant on the football vase -shape 3802 - that came with the celadon glaze but this is the first time that I've seen the celadon glaze on a football vase. Having collected KM pieces for over 20 years and not come across one like this, combined with the fact that it doesn't have the the KM stamps strongly suggests that this is a trial piece. Whether it's from the pre-war production or the post-war preduction period is harder to determine as both the celadon glaze and the football shape were used during both periods.

If I was to guess, I would go for pre-war on the basis that the top lip is, as you say, not standard, which suggests that it could come from an early period when they were refining shapes and glazes.

Hope that helps

Kurt
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Post by J2020 on October 14th 2017, 10:16 pm

Kurt. - Brilliant, - many thanks for that
....so, one for pride-of-place in the glass display cabinet, rather than for general everyday flower arranging on the window sill!

Following your information - found an image of vase shape 3802 [1935] on the Wedgwood Museum website
- which gives dimensions of 236mm (h) x 220mm (dia) ... which seemed huge!

have also seen different sizes online e.g. 200mm (possibly shape no. 3765?) and 185mm (shape no.?)
.... BUT mine is even smaller at roughly 145mm (h) x 150mm (dia.)!
- how many sizes were there ?


Antique-Collecting UK website: Re: two-tone wares - "....from January 1937...  ...celadon green slip on a cream-coloured body.." ..[lathe turned] .. ".. to expose the lighter colour beneath the slip..".

Thanks again
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