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Post by NaomiM on June 1st 2017, 1:22 am

unmarked vase. Watcombe, maybe?





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Post by Mordeep on June 1st 2017, 10:12 am

That very shiny deep glaze I always take to be Torquay terracotta company, could be by Watcombe they had a very similar output and both were a little relaxed about marking what they made. Your Vase is going to be from about 1880 anyway and its pretty much certain to be from Torquay.
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Post by NaomiM on June 1st 2017, 10:41 am

Cheers Most Excellent

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Post by denbydump on June 1st 2017, 1:26 pm

I'm not sure about torquay. They didn't use gilding as I remember,
It's more like the Staffs terracotta of Gibson's or Ellgreave to me.
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Post by Essenjay on June 1st 2017, 2:47 pm

Well, they did gild the Pratt-type terracotta wares, but generally not much else, as far as I'm aware. Like you, though, I'm not really seeing Devon in the piece and would also tend toward Staffordshire. The top looks a bit clunky to be Watcombe - I thought that their stuff tended to be a little more delicate.
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Post by Mordeep on June 1st 2017, 4:12 pm

The Torquay Terracotta did use gilding and if you see the items that are attributed to Christopher dresser by them that deep glaze is very similar. The red clay would also point me in the Torquay direction.
As for the Staffordshire connection don't really have the experience to say much about what they made but I would not attribute a glazed base like this one to anything I have seen so far. Worth investigation though and if we have any makers names worth a google image search.
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Post by denbydump on June 1st 2017, 6:56 pm

Hmmm this one could run and run. Yes the neck is not typical Torquay, nor
is the sharp foot-rim. While the glaze maybe typical, it was ususally an all-over effect.
The divided band with the terracotta isn't really. Hey it could even be continental.

MD I think you maybe referring to the Stapleton ware glazes.

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Post by Essenjay on June 1st 2017, 9:21 pm

I'm sure you've probably already done this, Naomi, but you could try asking the Torquay Pottery website:

"HELPLINE
We have a number of experts in the field of Torquay and Devon Pottery who can help with the identification of your pots. We require photos of the pot together with the dimensions and any details you have on their history, where and when they were purchased or found. It would also be useful to have information about the condition of the pot and if there is any damage in the way of cracks, nibbles or missing handles etc.

We will then try and identify the pottery or in some cases the potter who produced the item, together with some idea on date of manufacture and location. If there is any records of previous sales we will also try and give you some idea of possible value but this is not always possible.

In the first instance email info@torquaypottery.co.uk with your enquiry or there is a 24 hour ansphone service on 01737 767741 where you can leave a short message and contact details."
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Post by NaomiM on June 1st 2017, 9:23 pm

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Post by Mordeep on June 2nd 2017, 5:26 am

denbydump wrote:

MD I think you maybe referring to the Stapleton ware glazes.

http://www.magicfabric.magix.net/public/pottery/torquay.htm

Yep, glazed Terracotta wares made by the Torquay terracotta company under the brand name Stapleton supposedly designed by Christopher Dresser.
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