Trying to find out about a Wedgwood Biscuit Barrel

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Post by brissle on April 13th 2017, 11:46 am

My wife inherited a lovely Wedgwood biscuit barrel many years ago - she has fond memories because as a child, 60 years ago, her grandfather gave her biscuits from the barrel as a treat.
Out of interest, we've been trying to find out details and the age of this barrel.
I looked on Google and think the design is called "Offering to Peace", but I can't find any images of a similar shape or colour.
I've uploaded some photos in the hope that someone can help us.
I can't find a date stamp anywhere - just the Wedgwood imprint on the base.  The lid is stamped EPNS and what looks like JCB&S Ltd and Made in England.  I assume that applies just to the lid?

If anyone can give us an idea of the age, that would be great.
If this is slightly valuable (we can't imagine it is) we might bequest it to one of our child
Many thanks




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Re: Trying to find out about a Wedgwood Biscuit Barrel

Post by Johners2000 on April 13th 2017, 12:10 pm

The lack of the England with the Wedgwood mark would suggest pre 1891.

The two comma marks generally indicate a date between 1795 and 1850 but they where used on later pieces.

Wedgwood is very tricky to date but I would say 1890s in date.

Lucy Lead at the Wedgwood museum is very helpful: lucy.lead@wedgwoodmuseum.com
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Post by brissle on April 13th 2017, 1:54 pm

Thank you.
That's given me a good start.
I've sent an email to Lucy Lead.
I appreciate your help.
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Post by Potty on April 13th 2017, 5:34 pm

I'd have thought an older piece that has had the lid lost/broken and the metalwork added at a later date.

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Post by gareth-h on April 13th 2017, 10:04 pm

The EPNS mark is for J.B. CHATTERLEY & SONS LTD of Birmingham sometime after 1880.
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Re: Trying to find out about a Wedgwood Biscuit Barrel

Post by brissle on April 13th 2017, 11:15 pm

Thanks for that information.
I'll report back when I hear from the lady at the Wedgwood Museum......
Unless, of course, anyone else on here can provide more information.
My wife is pretty chuffed to discover that the barrel is at least 120 years old.
Happy Easter everyone.
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Post by Johners2000 on April 14th 2017, 11:27 am

The tricolour design and colours are not that common, unlike the more typical cobalt blue.

It is of course Jasper ware and probably bas- relief ware as opposed to 'true' Jasper.

Bas- relief was used for items such as tea wares, biscuit barrels, garden pots etc. whereas true Jasper was used for more decorative pieces such as vases and candlesticks - although there is some crossover. (i was told this by Lucy at the Wedgwood Museum)

The decoration is known as Etruscan - this reflected the Victorian public fascination with the wonders of ancient Rome and Greece being unearthed at that time.

Your pattern is often referred to as 'Maidens in the Garden' or words to that effect.

I think the lid is original but the date could be earlier than the 1890s but not by much - as Gareth-h says the lid is after 1880.

The best way of accurately dating Wedgwood is to hold it and look at the general style of the piece - you can't always rely on the 'published' dating systems.

In terms of value I have been told that the price of mid/late Victorian Wedgwood biscuit barrels has fallen in recent years, but being in the less common colours and shape it could push the value up - provided there are no chips or damage to the bas-relief.
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Post by brissle on April 14th 2017, 11:50 am

Thank you Johners2000, that's very interesting.
Our interest in the value is to do with how we dispose of the item eventually when we have to downsize - hopefully some years away, yet. But if the piece has some decent value and bearing in mind the sentimental attachment for my wife, we were wondering whether to pass it on to one of our children. Maybe that's just wishful thinking that they would have the same feelings for it as we do....... it's not been part of their lives.
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Post by Johners2000 on April 14th 2017, 12:09 pm

If you want to get a basic valuation (so you at least know) then try a decent auction house - they will give you a free estimate.

http://www.bamfords-auctions.co.uk - is quite a good one.

But bear in mind this is an auction estimate and so the sale price and therefore true value could be higher or lower - but at least it's a guide.
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Post by brissle on April 14th 2017, 1:27 pm

OK thanks Johners - good idea.
I reckon I'll wait until I hear from Lucy and then submit some photos to Bamfords.

I'm really grateful for all the advice and help being given by everyone.
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