Coalport? Swansea? Nantgarw? Is it a vase, or something else?

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Coalport? Swansea? Nantgarw? Is it a vase, or something else?

Post by silverbug on February 26th 2017, 4:43 pm









Hi,
I picked this up this morning at a local car boot but I haven't a clue what it is or who made it?
Can anyone suggest a maker?
It's made of porcelain and stands around 6 inches/ 15cms tall with a very white, glassy glaze.
It has suffered a firing crack during manufacture and tbh it's a little lopsided!
I don't know if it's meant to be a vase or planter but the knops at the side look like branches? Or tree trunks?
The painting seems to be quite fine and the gilding (though worn) appears of quite good quality too.
I'd be very grateful for any pointers, it was purchased in Swansea so I'm hoping that it is Welsh, though the chances of that I know are slim  Laughter .
Thanks!
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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2017, 4:46 pm

I wonder if it should have had a cover.
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Post by silverbug on February 26th 2017, 4:56 pm

Thanks, now that I've taken another look the top edge has never been gilded , so it hasn't worn away.
I think you're right therefore that it originally had a cover.
So, covered urn/vase of some sort.
Any takers as to factory ID?
The fact the decorators have worked on a cracked and warped piece is what's leading me to think it might be Welsh as I'm aware that in Swansea/Nantgarw only about 10% of what went into the kiln actually came out after firing in a state fit to be glazed and decorated etc.....
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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2017, 5:46 pm

I'm no expert, but trawling images on the net may turn something up.
The distictive gilding, the types and combination of flowers, and even
that lime-green colour may be indicative of a particular factory.

I once id'd a Lowestoft saucer, not from the central scene, but from
the distinctive trellis border design around the edge.
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Post by silverbug on February 26th 2017, 7:47 pm

Thanks, I'm currently doing just that.....just hoping someone on here might have a clue!
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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2017, 11:14 pm

Of course Derby may be another avenue, unless ot course it's continental.
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Post by silverbug on February 26th 2017, 11:19 pm

Thanks.
What's currently bugging me is the (and I don't really know how or describe this ,lol) 'waist' of the item near its foot.
On Derby and Swansea and virtually everything I've seen there is a distinct band or rolled edge here to mark the vase into distinct sections.
On this one there isn't.
Currently stumped.
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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2017, 11:23 pm

Worcester would be another name we haven't mentioned.
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Post by silverbug on February 26th 2017, 11:26 pm

I've looked at Worcester too and all the UK makers I've looked at so far have the same band or rim , referred to above.
So, I'm now thinking continental or perhaps later?
I had thought circa 1820 , but then I'm no expert either!!!
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Post by silverbug on February 27th 2017, 8:18 pm

Well a small development; I think the shape of the base is copying the Spode 'New Shape' of circa 1820.
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