Belgian art pottery Pieter Adriaenus Koeks or Adrian Pynacker 18th century

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Post by debbie32 on July 23rd 2016, 2:46 pm

Hello - I picked this up a while ago and cant positively identify which chap made this as their marks are quite similar, and I cant find anything by either of them that is remotely similar to this figure. Also I wanted to ask if you think that its worth having some restoration work done as he has lost an implement he was holding in his hand and he is looking up at something in the stone archway, so wondered if a bird may have been perched here as there is a roughness here that would suggest that something is missing. I would really appreciate any help with this, many thanks for your time :)








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Post by NaomiM on July 23rd 2016, 2:56 pm

Same mark as this one

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504238381541/

No, I wouldn't have restoration done as it's impossible to know what is missing without finding another one in this design, and it might be a one-off.
Nice piece :)

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Post by debbie32 on July 24th 2016, 5:17 pm

Thanks for this info NaomiM - your knowledge never fails to impress me, and I shall certainly take your recommendation and leave it as it is.
It is a lovely thing really well made and the colours and design are gorgeous :)
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Post by 22 Crawford St. on July 24th 2016, 5:59 pm

Debbie, who needs computers when you have Naomi!

I've found it very hard to find any restorer that will take on low end work at a reasonable price. The cost of professional repairs often means that DIY is your only option - I've even been considering restoration classes. On the whole one you try to sell a 'restored' piece they buyers tend to turn their backs so it's doubtful if it adds any value if it's going to coat a packet in the first place.
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Post by NaomiM on July 24th 2016, 6:04 pm

There was an interesting follow up Antiques Roadshow program where John Sandon (I think) followed up a Delft figure that had sold for many thousands of pounds and discovered the collector had had it restored. The barely restrained look of horror on his face was priceless.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on July 24th 2016, 6:50 pm

Was that the king with the damaged nose? USA buyer? Early English porcelain? Sometimes you simply have to accept that something is damaged.
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Post by NaomiM on July 24th 2016, 7:40 pm

Yes, that was the one. The guy hated damage. All his pieces were restored. I wonder how much that knocked off their value Laughter

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Post by denbydump on July 24th 2016, 8:04 pm

Just like the huge bronze sculpture on the roadshow many years ago, which the
owner had had sandblasted, to remove the tarnish, (Patina).

NEVER Restore anything, apart from Furniture. It will devalue the item to less than the restoration cost.
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Post by NaomiM on July 24th 2016, 8:19 pm

And the guy who'd spent several weeks stripping a bronze telescope in readiness to bring to the Roadshow :D

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on July 24th 2016, 9:40 pm

I always though patina on bronzes was built up over time - like furniture then found out it was actually applied by the artist and changed by natural patina and ware to be something irreplaceable, it;s much like that missing nose.
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Post by Mordeep on July 25th 2016, 3:43 pm

From experience unless an item is a wreck restoration adds no value. Restored items are often difficult to sell and worth well below half of what perfect items are. So unless your restoring to save an item from the bin or to prevent further damage I would not bother.
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Post by debbie32 on July 26th 2016, 10:18 am

Many many thanks for sharing all your comments - its been really interesting reading. Definitely wont be taking it along to any restorers or getting my clay and superglue out !
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Post by debbie32 on September 25th 2016, 5:31 pm

I have since found out that this isnt Belgian at all and not by either of the two names that i suggested.  It is apparently a 19th copy made in northern France.  This afternoon i have just found a really similar piece online and have emailed the dealer.  He has his listed as early saint-clements:
http://www.antiquesincheshire.co.uk/a-very-rare-pair-of-early-19thc-saint-clement-french-faience-figures/
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Post by NaomiM on September 25th 2016, 7:59 pm

They look too colourful in comparison. They may be later copies.

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