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Post by mac_moira on March 4th 2016, 11:35 pm

Hello,
I've tried without success to identify a mark on the base of a pretty little stoneware bowl I've had for some years - have found nothing online, and in the process, came across this forum - it's worth a shot. I'll be selling it on eBay and would like to be able to verify the maker or pottery. The letters form an intertwined 'SfR', with a separate secondary mark of 'J'. I did get in touch with the Narberth Pottery in Pembrokeshire, formerly run by Simon Frank Rich; his mark is similar in feel, but his daughter tells me this pot is not one of his. The bowl measures about 5" across the top diam. Hoping the photos will help.
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Post by dantheman on March 4th 2016, 11:53 pm

the pics don't enlarge so it's hard to tell Moira

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Post by NaomiM on March 5th 2016, 3:24 pm

Nice bowl. The mark is reminiscent of Simon Rich's SR, but you've ruled that out already.


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Post by mac_moira on March 6th 2016, 12:55 am

Just trying to (successfully?) upload images again:





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Post by dantheman on March 6th 2016, 9:52 am

now I see the larger image I recognise the decoration, I'll try to find my pot from that potter to see if it helps me remember who made it

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Post by NaomiM on March 17th 2016, 11:19 am

Found it. Early Maureen Minchin, Springs Farm Pottery




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Mark Identified! Maureen Minchin - Springs Farm Pottery - stoneware bowl

Post by mac_moira on March 17th 2016, 6:10 pm

Many thanks for your perseverance, Naomi M - much appreciated.
I've just sold the bowl on eBay but not posted it yet - will be nice to be able to tell the buyer who made it - tho' now I have a maker, I feel I could have asked more for it. C'est la vie!
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Post by studio-pots on March 17th 2016, 6:35 pm

It is very nice to have a name but I don't think it would have made much difference as to the price. She isn't an important name in the studio pottery world.

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Post by mac_moira on March 17th 2016, 7:00 pm

Thank you studio-pots - I confess that when I googled her, I found I didn't like her later, pictorially decorated work - but that's just a matter of taste. My little pot was much earlier, and nicer, in my opinion! There were 5 bids for it, so somebody else thought so too. Appreciate the forum's help.
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Post by NaomiM on March 17th 2016, 7:10 pm

Her current work is highly sought after, but her early pieces have been neglected. More curiosity value than monetary value :)

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Post by Potty on March 17th 2016, 11:49 pm

studio-pots wrote:She isn't an important name in the studio pottery world.


One of the bigger names when it comes to living potters, in my opinion at least Shocked

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Post by NaomiM on March 18th 2016, 12:04 am

Maybe it should be "She isn't an important name in Studio-Pot's world." Cheeky Big Laughter

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Post by studio-pots on March 18th 2016, 7:43 pm

I'm sure her current work appeals to the type of people who like decorated wares that Richard Dennis champions, including the work from his wife's little enterprise. However, that really has nothing to do with studio pottery more to do with pretty pictures.

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Post by NaomiM on March 18th 2016, 8:50 pm

I have to disagree. She's a highly experienced potter and makes highly skilled decorated pieces. On her own, so a studio potter. Hardly the same as the factory atmosphere of Dennis Chinaworks. By that definition you could discount the likes of Slipware potters like Hannah McAndrew, Lustreware potters like wotzhisname, and many many more.

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Post by studio-pots on March 18th 2016, 9:10 pm

I make my living out of selling studio pottery and there are people whose work I don't like and wouldn't sell but are important artists in the studio pottery world. If for the sake of argument we call Maureen Minchin a studio potter then that's fine but her work is not considered to be of any importance. You might like her work and think it is of high quality, as Potty does, but it isn't the type of thing that people that have a real interest in studio pottery have any interest in. The interest is from people who like pretty pictures.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on March 18th 2016, 9:14 pm

*Shock*

SP ..... you mean you don't like pots with monkeys and anteaters or even squirrels?

Times they are a changing' SP
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Post by studio-pots on March 18th 2016, 9:18 pm

What I like or dislike is irrelevant to whether something is important or not but I'm not keen on anteaters especially.

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Post by 22 Crawford St. on March 18th 2016, 9:38 pm

I bet if Bernard had painted the odd anteater then things would be different..
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Post by denbydump on March 18th 2016, 9:41 pm

Whether you like it or not, if the public is paying good money for something,
it must have appeal. The list is endless.
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Post by studio-pots on March 18th 2016, 10:46 pm

The point that I have been trying to make is that the bowl that started this thread is a "teabowl" sized piece of studio pottery that has the mark for the Springs Farm Pottery on it. The impressed J mark suggests to me that at the very least this was likely to have been thrown by someone other than Maureen Minchin. To me it looks attractive and would appeal to someone interested it studio pottery. It is nothing like the current work of Maureen Minchin and so I don't think would appeal to collectors of her work even if they had thought it was connected to her. I also don't believe that from a studio pottery collectors point of view that having her name attached to an auction listing would have altered the price realised, as her work is not collected by the same people.

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Post by Potty on March 18th 2016, 11:32 pm

studio-pots wrote:I make my living out of selling studio pottery and there are people whose work I don't like and wouldn't sell but are important artists in the studio pottery world. If for the sake of argument we call Maureen Minchin a studio potter then that's fine but her work is not considered to be of any importance. You might like her work and think it is of high quality, as Potty does, but it isn't the type of thing that people that have a real interest in studio pottery have any interest in. The interest is from people who like pretty pictures.

That sounds pretty snobby to be honest SP, she makes and decorates the pots herself, how can it not be deemed "real studio pottery"?




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Post by dantheman on March 19th 2016, 7:14 am

You're an illustrator and designer Moira, have you seen Maureen's decorated work?

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Post by studio-pots on March 19th 2016, 9:49 am

Potty wrote:
studio-pots wrote:I make my living out of selling studio pottery and there are people whose work I don't like and wouldn't sell but are important artists in the studio pottery world. If for the sake of argument we call Maureen Minchin a studio potter then that's fine but her work is not considered to be of any importance. You might like her work and think it is of high quality, as Potty does, but it isn't the type of thing that people that have a real interest in studio pottery have any interest in. The interest is from people who like pretty pictures.

That sounds pretty snobby to be honest SP, she makes and decorates the pots herself, how can it not be deemed "real studio pottery"?




You're right it does sound snobby but the reality is that whatever you or I think, Maureen Minchin's work is not regarded as being important or of interest by serious collectors of studio pottery.

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dantheman wrote:You're an illustrator and designer Moira, have you seen Maureen's decorated work?

This is what Moira wrote above, "I confess that when I googled her, I found I didn't like her later, pictorially decorated work - but that's just a matter of taste. My little pot was much earlier, and nicer, in my opinion!"

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Post by philpot on September 19th 2016, 10:12 pm

I came across this 'discussion' when browsing around the site. It seems that puritanism is alive and well in studio pottery as well.....although Jonathan Swift said it all much better..... Laughter Laughter
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