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Post by froggiepottery on August 23rd 2014, 11:42 am

Any help greatly appreciated - similar to Nick Rees but not his confirmed by him.










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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by NaomiM on August 23rd 2014, 4:17 pm

Peter Clough, Nantwich Pottery

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by big ed on August 23rd 2014, 4:22 pm

Mark doesn't match Naomi

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by froggiepottery on August 23rd 2014, 5:04 pm

Thanks very much   
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Stoneware Candle Holder NP - Nantwich Pottery - Peter Clough

Post by froggiepottery on August 23rd 2014, 5:19 pm

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by studio-pots on August 23rd 2014, 5:47 pm

big ed wrote:Mark doesn't match Naomi

Besides the mark being nothing like Peter Clough's mark the pot is not like anything that I have seen by him.

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by studio-pots on August 23rd 2014, 6:06 pm

To be fair it is a bit similar to the one that Ed had, Naomi but that wasn't like anything of his that I've seen either.


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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by froggiepottery on August 23rd 2014, 6:13 pm

I just google image searched and it came up the same on Pinterest - your post Naomi. I really believe it is correct at Nantwich and PC. Have listed on ebay and am sure I will be corrected very soon if wrong. Thanks very much for your help on this and others though.

  
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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by NaomiM on August 23rd 2014, 10:08 pm

If SP says the mark is wrong then the ones on my Pinterest board have been misattributed. I will have to do some more research and take the ones off my board for the time being.

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by studio-pots on August 23rd 2014, 11:37 pm

I only have the 1st edition of BSPM and in there it says that he was living at it current address (Harrogate) in 1970 and was at the pottery near Nantwich in 1982. There is no stylised N P mark shown and only his current mark.

The dates seems incorrect as on his own website he says that he has been in Harrogate for 23 years so he moved there in 1985 or 1991 depending on whether he has updated the page since it was first written or not.

He also states there that he moved to the north in 1966 but doesn't say that he was potting from that date. If he was or from the 1970 date mentioned in the BSPM 1st edition then I assume that might be when he was potting near Nantwich and calling his pottery, Nantwich Pottery. If so then he could have been potting there for a period between 15 and 25 years.

Candle holders such as the one that Froggie has were popular in the early to mid 1970s and, although the mark isn't the same as that on the vase that Ed had, it could be possible that he changed it over the period he was potting near Nantwich.

So to conclude, the mark is not like a mark that has positively been identified as being his and the style of the candle holder is not like any work that I have been able to find illustrated or have seen by him. So no positive identification but, as his work has changed quite markedly over the years, it would be unwise to say that the candle holder was definitely not his.

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by studio-pots on August 24th 2014, 9:10 am

I don't know as Ed only added a drawing of the mark on his vase but Ed thinks that the mark on this candle stick isn't the same so I am taking his word on it to some extent.

However, on that thread there is a remark from "lorenhg" saying that Ed's vase is Nantwich Pottery, as items similarly decorated to it with an NP mark had been positively ID'd by Peter Clough. Lorenhg had contacted Clough after Ed made the suggestion to do so when they had been listed under ID My Pottery here earlier. 

There is also an addition on the same thread by Marcusborra with images of a pot that shows the mark, as shown on lorenhg's earlier pots as well.

Therefore Peter Clough says that he used a seal with NP at Nantwich but it isn't the same as the one on this candlestick.

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Post by NaomiM on August 24th 2014, 1:13 pm

The confusing thing is, I've seen pots with the same decoration as Ed's which has this mark (on my Pinterest board). I can only assume that Peter changed his mark a little. Seems too much of a coincidence otherwise, same decoration, same NP. letters.

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by studio-pots on August 24th 2014, 1:17 pm

That could be possible but we don't know for certain.

If you think that it is you could import the information here.

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by NaomiM on December 1st 2014, 7:29 pm

NaomiM wrote:So Eds pot ID must be wrong too

http://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t7456-nantwich-pottery


Ed's and the ones on my Pinterest board are definitely Nantwich Pottery. Peter & Jenny Clough confirmed  on Facebook that pots with that decoration were made at the pottery in the late 70s- early 80s.


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Just to confirm Jenny's post, definitely Nantwich, made these in three sizes, this looks like a med one

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Re: Stoneware Candle Holder NP

Post by froggiepottery on December 1st 2014, 8:50 pm

That is really great news, thanks for the information guys... unfortunately the candle holder was broken in the hands of Royal Mail... so is no longer sadly. Waaah
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