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Post by RoyJ99 on February 2nd 2014, 7:47 pm

Yet again drawn to another fish plate. This one is somewhat older. Anyone have any ideas on the marks? I was thinking continental, possibly Spanish or Portuguese but tbh I just really don't know.

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Re: Majolica Fish Plate

Post by RoyJ99 on February 4th 2014, 6:31 pm

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Post by NaomiM on February 4th 2014, 6:42 pm

In some lights the mark looks like a W.
My gut feeling is it's early 20th Century Portuguese, but the colours look a bit washed out. Rita's the person to ask.

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Post by RoyJ99 on February 4th 2014, 6:57 pm

Yeah can't make up my mind as to whether it's a W, M or N. I was thinking ca.1890 Portuguese or French. Have found one or two identical plates that have sold at auctions in the US but on each of them the description is just "Antique Majolica Fish Plate".
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Post by R.Ferrao on February 4th 2014, 7:00 pm

It could be portuguese, from Caldas da Rainha, but it's hard to say...
I'll have to make a little research.
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Post by RoyJ99 on February 4th 2014, 7:13 pm

Thanks, I'll see what I can dig up from your lead as well.
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Post by Joel Paiva on February 4th 2014, 7:44 pm

Another one Rita!!!! Oh god!!!
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Re: Majolica Fish Plate

Post by RoyJ99 on February 5th 2014, 6:16 pm

Quick update, an online dealer who has id'd a few things for me has said that he thinks it is English, ca.1880 and possibly by Minton or George Jones, the impressed mark being a U.
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Post by NaomiM on February 5th 2014, 6:42 pm

I don't think its English. English ones are more fish shaped and the colours are brighter.
Seen another couple on ebay, one listed as French or Portuguese, the other listed as Victorian. The second one has a similar impressed mark but it's II rather than V shaped. I suspect it's just a stilt mark. The plate also has a faint ink mark that looks a bit like W ontop of W. I don't think its a Mintons of George Jones mark.

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Post by RoyJ99 on February 5th 2014, 7:31 pm

I've seen the ones on Ebay and have also been in touch with an auction house in the US who recently sold one the same, they did not know the origins but suspected it was English however could not rule out continental. I'm more confused than ever lol
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Post by R.Ferrao on February 5th 2014, 8:46 pm

It's not portuguese  Naughty
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Post by RoyJ99 on February 5th 2014, 9:33 pm

Thank you, narrows it down a bit at least.
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Post by RoyJ99 on February 18th 2014, 6:54 pm

Update, sent pics to the V&A museum and they have replied that it's French ca.1880, without makers marks they can't attribute it to any particular factory.
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Post by sunnyices2 on February 19th 2014, 6:56 am

Roy I like your fish plate, is fab mate and This is a wow item lol

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