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Post by VeryGreennkeen May 11th 2011, 6:21 pm

Hi to all you Glassy folks.
I have had this vase in my modest collection for a few years now and have grown to love it but have never worked out
where or who? Any advice or info greatly appreciated.

Its a nice compact ovoid form vase in a smokey quartz type colour standing about 14cm tall. The surface has frosted or sand blasted matt finish which has been wheel cut all over to produce
this pattern. Ytne base has a large polished pontil . I have no idea but looks like it may be a whitefriars piece of studio work ??

Many thanks for your thoughts , scott

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Post by VeryGreennkeen May 27th 2011, 6:06 pm

No Takers aty all ????
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Post by flying free May 28th 2011, 10:46 pm

well I can't help but I think it is absolutely gorgeous!
That colour is fab, the whole thing is fab
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Post by VeryGreennkeen May 31st 2011, 8:41 pm

Many thanks i really love this one too.
How many other Glass factories other than whitefriars/powell that did this very large round base grinding/polishing.
Im guessing this piece to be C 1920s-early 40s possibly by style and amount of base wear alone.
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Post by Nic May 31st 2011, 10:11 pm

The large majority of glassworks of any quality finished their bases with a polished pontil mark - it's one of those internet/telly myths that only Whitefriars did it.

I'm quite tempted to think that it's Czech, although the few Czech pieces I've had have all had flat polished bases...
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Post by VeryGreennkeen May 31st 2011, 10:54 pm

Hi Nic, yes i did realise that many glass works ground the pontil marks out but thought this one was larger than usual and was thinking maybe an indication as to which works. I also have several Czeck pices which do tend to be blown onto moulds and cut from the pontil at the top rather than bottom i think.
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Post by Nic May 31st 2011, 11:17 pm

Ah, I get you.

I'm not sure it can be identified by base alone, unfortunately.
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Post by VeryGreennkeen June 12th 2011, 11:33 pm

Hi again, i have just perhaps stumbled apon an image in an old collectable book that lead me to serch about and found some very similar vases of like form. Im not saying its an ID but a possible lead to follow.
If anyone can disprove or at least tell me im barking up the wrong tree i would much appreciate it.
WMF WALTER DEXEL Ikora range of vases are as close as i have seen so far !!

What do you think any chance ?????
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Post by fatlava.eu June 13th 2011, 1:56 pm

VeryGreennkeen wrote:Hi again, i have just perhaps stumbled apon an image in an old collectable book that lead me to serch about and found some very similar vases of like form. Im not saying its an ID but a possible lead to follow.
If anyone can disprove or at least tell me im barking up the wrong tree i would much appreciate it.
WMF WALTER DEXEL Ikora range of vases are as close as i have seen so far !!

What do you think any chance ?????

Hi!

Just my personal opinion, i am not really a specialist :-)
I would say "no" to Ikora and "no" to Walter Dexel and "may be" to WMF.

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Post by flying free June 14th 2011, 5:14 pm

I'm pretty sure it's not, but Caithness did a range called rough cut. I've had a quick look but can't find similar however you may want to investigate further. The base doesn't look right for that though, but still may be worth a look.
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Post by VeryGreennkeen January 3rd 2012, 8:26 pm

HHmmm still no joy with this one , but i will keep looking i guess, thanks to all for your thoughts
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Post by VeryGreennkeen January 18th 2013, 10:58 pm

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Post by CMC January 22nd 2013, 11:38 am

A beautiful vase that oozes quality, love the colour.
Not something I have come across Whitefriars wise and pretty sure well above Caithness quality and that base is not Caithness IMHO.
A good German maybe Dutch or even Scandinavian maker?
May I suggest trying a different forum may get a result.
Try posting it here in the general glass section http://www.glassmessages.com/ could give you a 'kick start'

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Post by bistoboy January 22nd 2013, 12:11 pm

i'm sure (?) i saw something like this on TV a while ago that was said to be Daum?
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Post by bistoboy January 22nd 2013, 12:13 pm

but, i probably wasn't paying very close attention
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Post by bistoboy January 22nd 2013, 12:19 pm

was it perhaps on that programme "making money from antiques" on the Quest channel? you could try tweeting Ceri Levy to see if he can help?
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Post by NaomiM January 22nd 2013, 3:59 pm

I don't think it's Daum. they tended to put a foot on the base, and, unless it's a second, I'd expect it to be signed.
I think maybe Czech/Bohemian - maybe Moser.

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Post by CMC January 22nd 2013, 5:23 pm

Don't know a great deal about Moser but the pieces I have sold in the past have all been crystal pieces which had flat highly polished based and all have been acid edged signed Moser, having said that, that's probably why I knew they were Moser and there are unsigned pieces with a different base finish dependant on style?
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Post by NaomiM January 22nd 2013, 5:57 pm

flat highly polished base

True. Also in my experience the rim is polished and bevelled. However they're not necessarily signed - eg:

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t9993-moser-vase-by-hana-machovska-1950s-60s?highlight=moser
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Post by NaomiM January 22nd 2013, 6:01 pm

The colour of the glass is not what I'd expect for Moser or a top quality French maker (in my limited experience, I should add).
May still be Bohemian, though.

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Post by VeryGreennkeen October 21st 2013, 7:41 pm

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Post by Christine November 19th 2013, 3:21 pm

These are modern but I don't think the maker has been found
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