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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 4:43 pm

The master of Reduced Pigment Lustre pottery.Entirely self taught.Represented in many Museums.
This is a fairly early large bowl.

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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 4:47 pm

Sutton Taylor is giving a talk and demonstration of his work at the Ashmoleam Museum Oxford, this coming Sunday,9 June. It is in association with a show of his work at Oxford ceramics,which is illustrated on their website.
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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 5:13 pm

This being a smaller bowl. But much more glitzy and hence difficult to photo!

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Post by NaomiM on June 7th 2013, 5:23 pm

Lovely.

What is his mark?

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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 5:46 pm

A capital ST in a Lozenge. Soory I haven't a photo.
But if ever come across any of his work.Its fairly identifiable.
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Post by Potty on June 7th 2013, 8:11 pm

Hi Phil,

What do you mean by "Reduced Pigment Lustre" please?

Not a term I've come across before and I'm wondering what the difference is between that and what I generally just call "Lustre".

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Post by Potty on June 7th 2013, 8:54 pm

I've just noticed your reply in the lustre pottery thread:

philpot wrote:Lustre can be quite a complicated business.The two principal modern forms tend to be Reduced glaze Lustre which is made by incoporating metal compounds in a glaze and reducing it as it cools after being fired.The glaze tends to cover the whole surface of an item.
The other being the more arty type of Reduced Pigment Lustre,which is the main one historically. Used by potters like Alan Caiger Smith and Sutton Taylor in modern times. Involves a great deal of work and high kiln losses.

So the lustre some Raku pots have from the metals present during the reducing atmosphere would be considered "Reduced glaze Lustre"?

I would assume then that people like Jonathan Chiswell Jones and De Morgan used "Reduced Pigment Lustre"?

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Post by skipposal on June 7th 2013, 9:00 pm

Just got the Sutton Taylor catalogue through from Oxford Ceramics, the work is to die for Beating Heart
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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 9:12 pm

Alan Caiger Smith uses the term in his book LUSTRE POTTERY,which is one of the few modern books on the subject. I've got a few Jonathan Chiswell Jones lustre pots,and they are very different from both Sutton Taylor and Alan Caiger Smith. So I don't know what he uses. A long quote from an American Lustre Potter,which gives a good description of it.

"Reduced Lusters vs. Resinate Lusters:

Lusters were first in evidence on glass in Egypt in the 4th century. By the 9th century, luster

was being used on ceramics. Reduced luster—also known as pigment luster, smoked luster,

Arabian or Persian luster—was first used in Iraq in the 9th Century. A pigment, based on an

iron-bearing clay and containing copper or silver, is brushed onto a fired glaze surface and

then refired in a reducing atmosphere. After firing the pigment/clay paste is washed off,

leaving behind a thin film of metal, which we call luster. The interactions between the clay

paste/pigment, temperature, length of reduction, and base glaze are all important. Most

notably the base glaze has to accept and develop the luster from the pigment. The glaze can

be either lead- or alkaline-based frits that are non-toxic and non-soluble. They are typically

low-temperature glazes as the glaze needs to soften between 1112–1292 °F (600–700 °C)

in order to bond with the thin film of metal deposited. Other sources of metallic deposition

are possible with luster glazes, resinate lusters, and fuming. The widespread use of electric

kilns, together with the increasing interest in and use of overglaze techniques necessitates

a focus on resinate lusters.

Resinate lusters are made up of solutions and suspensions of metallic resinates in solutions

of polymers and thickening agents to aid application by brush and machine. The colors result

from metallic oxide films bonded onto the glazed surface by a flux, specifically bismuth

oxide, which must be fired to a low temperature otherwise it would burn out. This is the

same luster film as produced by reduced luster — the main difference being the method of

application and firing technique employed. Whereas reduced lusters are either clay paste

or water based and fired in a reducing atmosphere, resinate lusters are oil/resin based and

are fired in an oxidizing atmosphere. The localized reduction is performed by the carbon

produced from the resin (usually pine oil) base. Resinate lusters are a product of the ceramic

industry, developed as glaze application and controlled firings were standardized for mass

production. Resinate lusters are also known as oxidation or commercial lusters.
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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 9:27 pm

The Hart Gallery represented Sutton Taylor from the mid 90's until they closed just recently. They produced several superbly illustrated catalogues in 2008 and 2010,and back in 1999 a full scale hardback SUTTON TAYLOR by Marina Vaizey which is still available online reasonably cheaply.
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Post by philpot on June 7th 2013, 9:29 pm

This is a review of his Liverpool exhibition a few years ago.with some good images.
http://www.artinliverpool.com/?p=14777
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Post by skipposal on June 7th 2013, 9:34 pm

Great info Philpot - cheers
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Post by Potty on June 7th 2013, 10:35 pm

Thanks Phil Most Excellent

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Post by philpot on July 14th 2013, 7:19 am

A big charger...


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Post by NaomiM on July 14th 2013, 8:37 am

Can we have a photo of the mark for reference, please.

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Post by skipposal on July 15th 2013, 9:07 pm

Just bought the 2010 Hart Gallery catalogue 'Lustre' at Ruthin Craft Centre. Some wonderful photos. I'm amazed that Keighley could have produced this extraordinary potter
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Post by studio-pots on July 17th 2013, 11:57 pm

philpot wrote:A capital ST in a Lozenge. Soory I haven't a photo.
But if ever come across any of his work.Its fairly identifiable.

Now that you have a photograph of his mark could you post it here please where it would be most useful?

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Post by philpot on July 20th 2013, 8:10 am

I would argue that we need a completely separate indexed library of studio marks alone,as we do for other back stamps.
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Post by philpot on July 20th 2013, 8:14 am

The mark.His earlier work from the 80's also comes with an LH mark,standing for Lotherton Hall in Leeds,where he had a studio for a dozen or so years.

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Post by Potty on July 20th 2013, 7:36 pm

Thanks for adding the mark Phil. Happy 

philpot wrote:I would argue that we need a completely separate indexed library of studio marks alone,as we do for other back stamps.

Personally I think the marks are best kept in context, i.e. shown with examples of the pots, so that there are less miss-attributions based on a mark alone.

That said, you or anyone else are more than welcome to add marks to the separate thread Most Excellent 

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Post by NaomiM on July 20th 2013, 8:15 pm

philpot wrote:I would argue that we need a completely separate indexed library of studio marks alone,as we do for other back stamps.


It would be lovely but I don't know how one would index them on a forum like this, unless one had a thread for the pots and mark for each potter.
I have been building a Pinterest board of studio pottery marks and find it essential to have a photo of the whole pot and the mark for reference. But it becomes unwieldy after only a few hundred images, let alone the thousands that one can potentially end up with a few years down the line. If you were serious you'd need to set up a separate website with the sort of categories used by books such as British Studio Pottery Marks, but even that author has baulked at setting up an online version.

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