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Post by sunnyices2 on November 10th 2012, 10:14 am

Who made this beautiful vase... this is what i can make out from the mark at the base... ALLER B AND 10/11/35?

I love this item because is very beautiful although there some few chips.. am gonna have a go at having it repaired.. need to look for good pottery around my end and have it fits. great lot :)















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Post by NaomiM on November 10th 2012, 4:38 pm

Potty wrote:Looks like Aller Vale Pottery.

Agreed. With scandi slipware decoration.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by bistoboy on November 10th 2012, 6:01 pm

NaomiM wrote:
Potty wrote:Looks like Aller Vale Pottery.

Agreed. With scandi slipware decoration.

not sure i understand 'scandi slipware decoration'.

it's called an udder vase and i concure, deffo Aller Vale
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Post by bistoboy on November 10th 2012, 6:04 pm

ah, i see what you mean, Scandy pattern , not scandinavian
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Post by bistoboy on November 10th 2012, 6:07 pm

although, it looks more like Sandringham pattern in reverse colours - white on blue, rather than blue on white.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by NaomiM on February 11th 2015, 9:19 pm

Aller Vale pie crust mottoware bowl






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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by denbydump on February 11th 2015, 10:11 pm

Can that be Scottish? (Big Ed?).
The Scottish and Welsh dialect motto wares are always
sought after, more than the usual carrot-cruncher stuff.
nice bit Naomi.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by r-and-f on February 11th 2015, 11:12 pm

The Selkirk Grace, attributed (incorrectly) to Robert Burns.

Presumably Aller Vale and the other Devon mottoware potteries must have made Scots and Welsh language wares specifically for distribution to retailers in Scotland and Wales?
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Post by NaomiM on February 11th 2015, 11:29 pm

It's a popular motto. I suspect they were mainly made to be sold down south to tourists.

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Post by denbydump on February 12th 2015, 8:35 am

r-and-f wrote:The Selkirk Grace, attributed (incorrectly) to Robert Burns.

Presumably Aller Vale and the other Devon mottoware potteries must have made Scots and Welsh language wares specifically for distribution to retailers in Scotland and Wales?

Ah, so it is Scottish!

Yes I think so, as I have had some Torquay mottos in Welsh Gaelic,
which would not mean much to anyone outside Wales.
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Post by denbydump on February 19th 2015, 4:26 pm

What was a more "desirable" item, though Torquay has hit the skids.
The cats and dogs subjects were always good, but for 20p well....





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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by denbydump on February 23rd 2015, 7:01 pm

A 10 inch high vase with beautifully done impasto Narcissi. K2 pattern c1920s.



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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by denbydump on February 26th 2015, 2:51 pm

The more desireable "Coloured cockerel" motif.

Motto reads:
Take thy calling thankfully,
Love thy neighbour neighbourly,
Shun the path to beggary.





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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2015, 2:54 pm

A more unusual moulded shape, with a floral cartouche on one side only. K1 pattern.



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Post by denbydump on February 26th 2015, 2:59 pm

Nice motto.

Love your enemies, trust but few,
And always paddle your own canoe.





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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by lindylou08 on March 22nd 2015, 2:41 pm

Aimed at the Irish market , I guess. Wondering how old it is as it appears to have some age


Base shot hopeless but has ALLER VALE impressed and 275 incised under he glaze
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by NaomiM on March 22nd 2015, 3:05 pm

I can't find dates except that Aller was in production 1880s to early 1930s. But I would guess early 1900s (1910s?) for this piece.

http://allervalepottery.co.uk

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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by lindylou08 on March 22nd 2015, 6:03 pm

Thanks Naomi. I found that site and have found an email contact so have sent a message begging for info!!
I've just realised on further scrutinising that the bottom of the handle where they have been fixed to the body appear to be in form of animal claws - but probably my imagination again !!
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Post by NaomiM on March 22nd 2015, 6:38 pm

I think you're right about the animal claws :)

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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by studio-pots on March 22nd 2015, 6:48 pm

The Aller Vale (Art) Pottery was probably in existance from 1868 but it wasn't until 1881 that John Phillips started to produce art pottery. Phillips died in 1897 and the business was taken over by Hexter, Humpherson & Co., who later purchased the Watcombe Terra-Cotta Co. and amalgamated the two firms in 1901. The company then became Royal Aller Vale & Watcombe Pottery Co. and generally the pottery from 1901 used Watcombe, Royal Aller Vale and other wording in the marks.

Therefore if that was true of all the wares produced, your two handled cup would have been made from c1885 (when work started to be marked) up to 1901. However, I have seen refererence to "Motto Ware", which is what this is, having the Aller Vale mark and the old shape number, as here, when produced by the amalgamated company after 1901.

Unfortunately, I don't know enough about this pottery to be able to say whether the reference I quote in the last sentence is correct or not.

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Post by lindylou08 on March 23rd 2015, 6:41 pm

Thanks for that SP. I'm hoping I will get a response to the email I sent to the chap on allervalepottery.co.uk
I'll post any info I get
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Post by studio-pots on March 23rd 2015, 8:03 pm

That would be good.

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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by lindylou08 on March 24th 2015, 4:01 pm

Information kindly provided by Peter Wright on the Aller Vale web site :

This is a nice piece of Aller Vale, dating to around 1910, pay no attention to dots!
The shape 275 is on the Aller Vale shapes page under the Potteries menu on the website, where you will also come across a few other pots with this pattern.
Unsurprisingly the pattern and motto tend to go together.
The high glaze is from lead glaze used widely at the time.
It could be worth around 20



The reference to ' dots' is the mention I made when contacting him that I had been told my someone that the dots around the top being close together indicated an early date !


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Post by studio-pots on March 24th 2015, 8:07 pm

Thanks for that and it does confirm that the Aller Vale mark was used on motto ware after 1901.

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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)

Post by denbydump on April 30th 2017, 1:14 pm

"Normandy" or "Green and Straw" c1890s.
Most items unmarked, some only shape numbers.



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